weighing cattle for load lots

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If you don't have scales to weigh your cattle but have load lot numbers of calves what's the best way to weigh them. The calves when weaned will be 3 miles from a truck stop with scales. What I mean is how to know exactly what you have in lbs. before selling them?
 
Gather up 5 to 10 head. Load on your trailer and haul to scale. You can get a spot weight that will give you and your buyer a good idea of what the cattle weigh. Stocker operators do this regularly. If you listen to the announcements on Superior, they sometimes mention that the cattle were "spot" weighed on such and such date.
 
kenny thomas":19z9g7xu said:
Many times it is just an educated guess with a slide in price for the actual weight.

So if we load 80 calves and they weigh 51,000 lbs. how does that work?
 
The term "Slide" refers to an increasingly common method of establishing the final sales price on a sliding scale based on the actual net weight of the cattle in relation to the stated "base weight". The purpose of a "slide" is to provide a simple and equitable mechanism to adjust the sales price of cattle based on actual net weight.


For example, consider a seller who contracts his steer calves for $1 per lb. at an estimated or "base weight" of 500 lbs. with a 5 cent slide. A "5 cent slide" means for every pound over 500 lbs., the sales price will be lowered by $0.05 per cwt.

If the steers actually weigh 515 lbs., or 15 lbs. over the base weight, the following calculation will be made:
(15 lbs. x $0.05 = $0.75), which results in the final sales price being ($1 per lb. less $0.075 = $0.9925 per lb.) or $99.25 per cwt.

The amount of the slide is negotiable, but some sellers stipulate that the slide be "up and down" or work both ways. In the example above, if the steer calves had only weighed 485 or 15 lbs. less than the base weight and the slide was "up and down", the 5 cent slide would result in the sales price being increased to $100.75 per cwt.

. Slide Calculator... .Calculates Price and $'s per head for various prices, slide rates, and base and pay weights.
 
tncattle":1t9un7k8 said:
kenny thomas":1t9un7k8 said:
Many times it is just an educated guess with a slide in price for the actual weight.

So if we load 80 calves and they weigh 51,000 lbs. how does that work?
At 51,000 its usually not too much of an issue. Its all according to how far you are from the scales. Far enough and they will loose enough weight to be legal.
But the real answer is many times the extras will be cut off the load to make the load legal.
 
kenny thomas":4kqwohrt said:
tncattle":4kqwohrt said:
kenny thomas":4kqwohrt said:
Many times it is just an educated guess with a slide in price for the actual weight.

So if we load 80 calves and they weigh 51,000 lbs. how does that work?
At 51,000 its usually not too much of an issue. Its all according to how far you are from the scales. Far enough and they will loose enough weight to be legal.
But the real answer is many times the extras will be cut off the load to make the load legal.

What are done with the cut off calves?
 
So if we load 80 calves and they weigh 51,000 lbs. how does that work?[/quote]
At 51,000 its usually not too much of an issue. Its all according to how far you are from the scales. Far enough and they will loose enough weight to be legal.
But the real answer is many times the extras will be cut off the load to make the load legal.[/quote]

What are done with the cut off calves?[/quote]
Just speaking for myself, but the loads bought here are understood that it is in load lots. Sometimes we have a load that we can put the extras on sometimes not. It is all according to how the deal is made in the begining. Usually there is at least a few that are too little or something that really dont fit the load anyway. Sometimes the extras are just taken to the stockyard.
 
inbredredneck":2t1vydb0 said:
tncattle":2t1vydb0 said:
What are done with the cut off calves?
Run them out the california door back into your trailer.

This would work as we would be 3 miles from the scale, so no big time or fuel issue.
 
tncattle":1nqocvhg said:
inbredredneck":1nqocvhg said:
tncattle":1nqocvhg said:
What are done with the cut off calves?
Run them out the california door back into your trailer.

This would work as we would be 3 miles from the scale, so no big time or fuel issue.
and you would be there to witness the weighing anyway. ;-)
 
"and you would be there to witness the weighing anyway." ;-)


that's a good thing for sure
 
But some loads are sold to be weighed on the truck with a 2 or 3 % shrink. The truck is weighed and then loaded and then re-weighed afterward at the same scales. Better be close on the weight then. Hard to cut them off that way.
 
So if we load 80 calves and they weigh 51,000 lbs. how does that work?[/quote]
At 51,000 its usually not too much of an issue. Its all according to how far you are from the scales. Far enough and they will loose enough weight to be legal.
But the real answer is many times the extras will be cut off the load to make the load legal.[/quote]

What are done with the cut off calves?[/quote]

For the new folks, what is illegal?

Thanks
 
kenny thomas":3mriec13 said:
But some loads are sold to be weighed on the truck with a 2 or 3 % shrink. The truck is weighed and then loaded and then re-weighed afterward at the same scales. Better be close on the weight then. Hard to cut them off that way.
If there is cattle sorted off to make the load legal, the shrink would be to the sellers favor.
 
inbredredneck":792vd2ok said:
kenny thomas":792vd2ok said:
But some loads are sold to be weighed on the truck with a 2 or 3 % shrink. The truck is weighed and then loaded and then re-weighed afterward at the same scales. Better be close on the weight then. Hard to cut them off that way.
If there is cattle sorted off to make the load legal, the shrink would be to the sellers favor.
Please explain.
 
BC":2oaxlzxt said:
inbredredneck":2oaxlzxt said:
kenny thomas":2oaxlzxt said:
But some loads are sold to be weighed on the truck with a 2 or 3 % shrink. The truck is weighed and then loaded and then re-weighed afterward at the same scales. Better be close on the weight then. Hard to cut them off that way.
If there is cattle sorted off to make the load legal, the shrink would be to the sellers favor.
Please explain.
Okay the man loads 100 head on the ranch, drives to the scale, Scales cattle for a net of 54,000. Trucker only wants 52,000, so they remove cattle lets say 4 head, now net of 51,908. So the buyer shrinks cattle 3% for a total of 1559.40# Now the 100 head **** and pissed 1620# on the way to town, but the buyer bought 96 head and only could shrink 1559.40#
 

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