LFF":33knywd1 said:Mike you do realize that acording to the chart, purebred Angus average Low choice. Only 3.1% graded prime. It makes the point that I mentioned in another post " both Herefords and Angus need to improve in marbling".
popsjp":2wdu0mwu said:Having read both articles I am more confused now than before reading. My question is which article do you believe, the one that supports personal thoughts or beliefs? Or does it just make you question everything? Interesting to say the least.
cypressfarms":nsoh4kxn said:Personally I don't believe the VP of the CAB LLC has my welfare in mind when writing articles. I'm lucky that I am very close to LSU which has numerous classes - which seem to NOT have a financial interest in the outcome of a paper or research.
greenwillowhereford II":3mbka18n said:Frankie, you mentioned in another thread that you have a commercial herd also. If you don't mind my asking, is it straight Angus as well?
I hope that I am wrong; but I don't believe that in a typical commercial setting you can consistently get pens where 50% of the steers grade prime unless you have toadie little 2/3 frame scores
Brandonm2":32l11wta said:LFF":32l11wta said:Mike you do realize that acording to the chart, purebred Angus average Low choice. Only 3.1% graded prime. It makes the point that I mentioned in another post " both Herefords and Angus need to improve in marbling".
I hope that I am wrong; but I don't believe that in a typical commercial setting you can consistently get pens where 50% of the steers grade prime unless you have toadie little 2/3 frame scores......or you are feeding concentrated ration from birth (and even then I have doubts). Your normal 5 - 6 frame calves just aren't likely to be far enough along on their growth curves to get there in a reasonable amount of time when killed. The industry could very well prove me wrong and while your original premise is right I doubt that high growth cattle are ever going to be really consistent grading prime.
Frankie":ca7n0sgr said:popsjp":ca7n0sgr said:Having read both articles I am more confused now than before reading. My question is which article do you believe, the one that supports personal thoughts or beliefs? Or does it just make you question everything? Interesting to say the least.
Don't be confused. First, the article Mike titled "..AGAINST crossbreeding" isn't really against crossbreeding. It also acknowledges the benefits of crossbreeding. But it also looks at the problems of crossbreeding and the benefits of straight breeding. Some of the research in the "FOR" article is almost 30 years old. We've improved the genetics in cattle since then. Some of the research in the "AGAINST" article is more current. You just have to read, research, and decide which will work better for your program.