Son of Butch
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For the Preakness 351 meters aka 1,152 feet, a shade more than 1/5 of a mileHow long is your home straight there?
Ken
For the Preakness 351 meters aka 1,152 feet, a shade more than 1/5 of a mileHow long is your home straight there?
Ken
The Pony Express ponies averaged about 10 mph.. The Thoroughbreds that are being raced are running about 35-40 mph. The Thoroughbred could run the 10 miles, if the rider paced them properly.I know almost nothing about horses but the Pony Express riders and horses ran 10 miles. Why can't these run 1/4 miles
The horses used by the PE were loping... not at a flat out run. But what gets me is that the thoroughbreds are running on prepared and relatively soft surfaces... and horses are often run outside of racing on some very questionable ground and they don't injure themselves nearly as often. Why is that? Are race horses more fragile? I doubt it. I've seen thoroughbreds raised outside of racing and they don't break down. They are just like other horses. I wonder if the horses babied on soft dirt tracks don't develop tough bones? I got no clue... Just wondering...I know almost nothing about horses but the Pony Express riders and horses ran 10 miles. Why can't these run 1/4 miles
No. It is like everything else these days, more people just hear about it and hear about it sooner in todays; social media enviroment. The TB has been bred for 500 years, and it has been nearly perfected. Today's rimes are not much, if any, faster than times 20, 50, or 100 or more years ago.Seems like an awful lot of problems lately,
Has it been that way for a while or a fairly new development?
If it's a recent thing, then maybe the phenotype that they are breeding for is causing it, kind of like breeding cattle for particular traits that don't always help with other traits.
No, they covered 10 miles. alternating walk, trot and run. No animal can run 10 miles except for man.I know almost nothing about horses but the Pony Express riders and horses ran 10 miles. Why can't these run 1/4 miles
No. PE horses were walked, trotted and run, alternating gaits about every mile. Just as we do in 50 and 100 mile endurance races today. Probably rode a little more distance at the trot than run or walk. Trot is the easiest gait on the horse, and really eats up the miles.The horses used by the PE were loping... not at a flat out run. But what gets me is that the thoroughbreds are running on prepared and relatively soft surfaces... and horses are often run outside of racing on some very questionable ground and they don't injure themselves nearly as often. Why is that? Are race horses more fragile? I doubt it. I've seen thoroughbreds raised outside of racing and they don't break down. They are just like other horses. I wonder if the horses babied on soft dirt tracks don't develop tough bones? I got no clue... Just wondering...
The reason is no one is running 2 and 3 year olds outside of racing.The horses used by the PE were loping... not at a flat out run. But what gets me is that the thoroughbreds are running on prepared and relatively soft surfaces... and horses are often run outside of racing on some very questionable ground and they don't injure themselves nearly as often. Why is that? Are race horses more fragile? I doubt it. I've seen thoroughbreds raised outside of racing and they don't break down. They are just like other horses. I wonder if the horses babied on soft dirt tracks don't develop tough bones? I got no clue... Just wondering...
And the with saddle and gear weighing more than a jockey today!!I know almost nothing about horses but the Pony Express riders and horses ran 10 miles. Why can't these run 1/4 miles
Many retired race horses, many with injuries from racing have successfull careers as Eventing horses where cross country courses can be pretty long distances jumping obstacles, fallen timber, water jumps etc . Also show jumping.The horses used by the PE were loping... not at a flat out run. But what gets me is that the thoroughbreds are running on prepared and relatively soft surfaces... and horses are often run outside of racing on some very questionable ground and they don't injure themselves nearly as often. Why is that? Are race horses more fragile? I doubt it. I've seen thoroughbreds raised outside of racing and they don't break down. They are just like other horses. I wonder if the horses babied on soft dirt tracks don't develop tough bones? I got no clue... Just wondering...
Preakness weight carried has always been the same through the years 126 lbs and 121 lbs for fillies (5 lb allowance)And the with saddle and gear weighing more than a jockey today!!
People do it all the time, by the ten thousands at Indy and NASCARI am not sure many people would sit through a ten mile race.
Funny!I try to keep up with technology.
They slaughter gorillas for glue now...
Racing TBs have always been bred for speed, and there are no more injuries to 2 and 3 yr olds today than there was in 1923. It is the age thing that causes the injuries. Racing 2 and 3 yr old QHs have the same injuries. 10 yr old head, heel and tie-down QHs don't.Right or wrong I believe the issues that plague thoroughbred horses today are purely manmade. We breed for one thing only, speed. The rest of the horse is overlooked in the name of speed. When horses were wild the strong survived, sound, healthy animals. The almighty dollar has made more problems for these athletes than anything else. My assumption is the reason you see so many 2 and 3 year olds is the purses are substantially higher. I hate to say it but even though the organizations are trying to look out for the animals and doing damage control for the racing industry, some trainers and owners only care about the winning. There are horses that test positive for drugs quite a bit. You only hear about a small fraction of them, I highly doubt a horse goes and takes a needle to administer it's own cocaine fix. Personally the fines are to small for positive test results, that's why trainers keep dong it.
Kentucky Derby 1.25 miles record 1:59.40 by Secretariat; 2 minutes = 37.5 mphThe Pony Express ponies averaged about 10 mph.. The Thoroughbreds that are being raced are running about 35-40 mph. The Thoroughbred could run the 10 miles, if the rider paced them properly. I am not sure many people would sit through a ten mile race.
I almost bet that exact trifecta,!!! But instead, I bet those 3 all to show. Told ya that Braffert would be in there!Well Baffert did it and broke the tie at 7 and now holds the record with 8 Preakness career wins.
I was pulling for #7 Blazing Sevens to catch him, but it was not to be.
1 National Treasure 7.80 win 4.00 place 2.60 show
2 Blazing Sevens 5.00 place 2.80 show
3 Mage 2.40 show
4 Red Route One
$2 superfecta picking exact order of the top 4 paid 144.80