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Caustic Burno
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johndeerefarmer":2r22ye17 said:
These are not the vast majority of tractors being sold in the USA. The majority of tractors being sold here are 75 horse and less which are being made overseas.
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These are not the vast majority of tractors being sold in the USA. The majority of tractors being sold here are 75 horse and less which are being made overseas.
aplusmnt
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Caustic Burno":l1csq4s7 said:
Caustic.....why are you so upset about outsourcing our products to other countries, but when it comes to the biggest outsourcing in America, that of our jobs here in America to Illegal immigrants. You have a total different view on it. I believe in a past thread when I was against this you accused me of "not wanting to share the milk and honey"? Are you not doing the same thing here? Taking a Job is taking a job, rather it happens on American soil or foreign soil!
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Caustic.....seems like i'm not the only one with my head stuck somewhere. Your post has nothing to do with this thread? Read that Quote you posted of mine above and then read your answer. And then please tell us what you are talking about? Afraid you might have "Mad Caustic Disease" better watch it they might put a ban on you in Japan. 
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You are correct for once! It should have been on this thread. I still consider you views as that of a racial bigot and part of the problem with America today as greed from a group of greedy business owners and CEO's that refuse to pay a wage an American Family can survive off of so you can put more in your pocket. You make opportunities for these poor people. When a man can cross the border work for five dollars an hour for three months and elevate his famlies lifestyle to one that he could never attain in Mexico I would be doing the same thing. The government should be putting the bussiness owner in jail for hiring the immigrant now other business would have to pay a wage to attract the American worker. The problem doesn't lie in the immigrant but in the bussiness owner that makes these oppotunities available in the name of greed.
This country was founded on immigration legal and illegal there is not one family even native Americans that did not come from somewhere else.
[/quote]You are correct for once! It should have been on this thread. I still consider you views as that of a racial bigot and part of the problem with America today as greed from a group of greedy business owners and CEO's that refuse to pay a wage an American Family can survive off of so you can put more in your pocket. You make opportunities for these poor people. When a man can cross the border work for five dollars an hour for three months and elevate his famlies lifestyle to one that he could never attain in Mexico I would be doing the same thing. The government should be putting the bussiness owner in jail for hiring the immigrant now other business would have to pay a wage to attract the American worker. The problem doesn't lie in the immigrant but in the bussiness owner that makes these oppotunities available in the name of greed.
This country was founded on immigration legal and illegal there is not one family even native Americans that did not come from somewhere else.
skyeagle
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When the government cares more about helping other contries
then it's own people. Workers don't have a cance. Just ask
your congressman How much money we are still sending
to China. Makes me sick.
then it's own people. Workers don't have a cance. Just ask
your congressman How much money we are still sending
to China. Makes me sick.
LonghornRanch
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Texan":2jwk2kkk said:It's really hard to believe that my good friend Caustic Burno, the supposedly rugged, crusty and outspoken symbol of independence to many on these Boards, is a spokesman for labor unions. Unbelievable.
I think organized labor is one of the greatest impediments to free enterprise in this country. Socialism and extortion at it's worst. If anyone is really concerned about corporations moving overseas, they need only look to tax-and-regulate bureaucrats, lawyers and labor for much of the reason.
Unfreakingbelievable.
Amen Brother!
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Caustic Burno
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LonghornRanch":3g42obhp said:Texan":3g42obhp said:It's really hard to believe that my good friend Caustic Burno, the supposedly rugged, crusty and outspoken symbol of independence to many on these Boards, is a spokesman for labor unions. Unbelievable.
I think organized labor is one of the greatest impediments to free enterprise in this country. Socialism and extortion at it's worst. If anyone is really concerned about corporations moving overseas, they need only look to tax-and-regulate bureaucrats, lawyers and labor for much of the reason.
Unfreakingbelievable.
Amen Brother!
Yes I believe in a far wage for the American worker !
It is kinda like the
the auto worker making 52 bucks an hour that is 108,000 a year the average wage in Texas is 45000 a year. The cost of a home in Detroit is 300,000 single family 3 times his salary 100,000 in Texas a little over 2 times for the average Texan so with there logic we are making to much money. There are huge regional differences in scales of economy. The same house in Ca. would be near a three quarter's a million.
Why do begrudge another American from having the same standard of living as you. if you were to sell your hose in Texas you probablly couldn't buy a good shack in Ca. Sell a normal house in Ca. and build a mansion and buy a ranch in Texas.
I also saw almost an entire generation of men that worked in an enviroment die of cancer and Alzhiemers which wasn't coincidence. There working conditons are only better today because of the Union. Corporations would have never made those changes unless forced to by labor and the legislation fought for. I think the Union is a nessacary evil because of corporate greed.
aplusmnt
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Caustic Burno":165r15hi said:Caustic.....seems like i'm not the only one with my head stuck somewhere. Your post has nothing to do with this thread? Read that Quote you posted of mine above and then read your answer. And then please tell us what you are talking about? Afraid you might have "Mad Caustic Disease" better watch it they might put a ban on you in Japan.
You are correct for once! It should have been on this thread. I still consider you views as that of a racial bigot and part of the problem with America today as greed from a group of greedy business owners and CEO's that refuse to pay a wage an American Family can survive off of so you can put more in your pocket. You make opportunities for these poor people. When a man can cross the border work for five dollars an hour for three months and elevate his famlies lifestyle to one that he could never attain in Mexico I would be doing the same thing. The government should be putting the bussiness owner in jail for hiring the immigrant now other business would have to pay a wage to attract the American worker. The problem doesn't lie in the immigrant but in the bussiness owner that makes these oppotunities available in the name of greed.
This country was founded on immigration legal and illegal there is not one family even native Americans that did not come from somewhere else.[/quote]
You got any Social plans you would like to promote also? Seems on the other thread when I suggested the person hiring an illegal should be jailed, that is when you got all huffy. I guess I can go back and search that thread if need be. But lets say you changed your views. I agree with you now, anyone hiring an illegal with knowledge of it should be punished. I also agree I do not blame them for coming here. Except the fact that the Mexican immigrants out of all countries are the only ones that for some reason we are suppose to change for them. We are suppose to learn to speak Spanish, change schools, change our welfare programs and Make Spanish our second language. We do not hear all this crap about changing America to conform to Russian immigrants.
And no matter how the United States got filled rather through legal or illegal immigration. At that time in our history there was a need for immigration. People brought skills and things needed to make this country what it is. We were a young and empty country. Well now we are no longer in need of this. We are full. Now! The pot has melted and it is at capacity. And if we do need anything we need individual that bring something to better America like it was a 100 years ago maybe some doctors or engineers. We do not need people coming here and doing jobs illegally for a lesser wage than what Americans will do it for. Illegal immigration is as far the opposite as Unions as anything can get. Mexicans should change their own country not ours.
As much as the liberals like to make us think we need these workers to do jobs we do not want to do. This is just not so. If you take out the illegal workers, then the free Market and free enterprise will bring the wages to point that they need to be. But as long as there is this illegal aspect to our work force it can not work as it is suppose to.
And the fact that these workers send like 50% of their income back to Mexico only helps the Mexican county. No wonder the Mexican government gives out maps on how to get across the border. There workers sending our $$'s back over there is their #1 industry!
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Caustic Burno
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Aspl what ever quote
Except the fact that the Mexican immigrants out of all countries are the only ones that for some reason we are suppose to change for them. We are suppose to learn to speak Spanish, change schools, change our welfare programs and Make Spanish our second language.
Again this is pushed by corporate greed chasing the almighty dollar. Corporate America is the one making the ATM's in Spanaish, making loans to them to buy houses in America etc, Corporate greed.
Why don't you be a man and just admit you hate Mexicans for trying to better there standard of living in a situation small business owners created and corporations just like the contractors building the home depot in Ca.
Except the fact that the Mexican immigrants out of all countries are the only ones that for some reason we are suppose to change for them. We are suppose to learn to speak Spanish, change schools, change our welfare programs and Make Spanish our second language.
Again this is pushed by corporate greed chasing the almighty dollar. Corporate America is the one making the ATM's in Spanaish, making loans to them to buy houses in America etc, Corporate greed.
Why don't you be a man and just admit you hate Mexicans for trying to better there standard of living in a situation small business owners created and corporations just like the contractors building the home depot in Ca.
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Caustic Burno
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aplusmnt interesting these people were murdered for a lot of the same reason's you spout. Lets see immigrants, holding jobs Germans didn't want pure fear spread by hate mongers to an ignorant people..
At the Holocaust Education Center, we are dedicated to teaching about the Holocaust, preserving the experiences of those who survived, and honoring the memory of those who perished. Teaching the lessons of the Holocaust is an important and effective means to redjuce prejuidce and affect attitues to lessen hatred, bigotry, and violence against all groups. The purpose of the museum is not to just learn of the past but to educate for the future.
At our education center, students listen to survivors of the Holocaust who tell of their experiences. In addition to the suvivors, the students often hear from an American GI who liberated a concentration camp. We also take the students on a guided tour of our museum and show a short video about the Holocaust.
At the Holocaust Education Center, we are dedicated to teaching about the Holocaust, preserving the experiences of those who survived, and honoring the memory of those who perished. Teaching the lessons of the Holocaust is an important and effective means to redjuce prejuidce and affect attitues to lessen hatred, bigotry, and violence against all groups. The purpose of the museum is not to just learn of the past but to educate for the future.
At our education center, students listen to survivors of the Holocaust who tell of their experiences. In addition to the suvivors, the students often hear from an American GI who liberated a concentration camp. We also take the students on a guided tour of our museum and show a short video about the Holocaust.
aplusmnt
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Caustic Burno":10u7ph75 said:
Caustic what we are talking about is a Political issue not one of bigotry. The best Man at my wedding nickname was Taco, his grandmother barely spoke any english. One of my favorite Nephews is Black. Bigotry has nothing to do with taking a strong political view on the securing of our borders. I do not care if we are talking about Mexican, Russian, Muslims or Canadians etc.... The issue at hand is we have laws, laws of entrance to the U.S. and labor laws for those working here.
By draining public funds, creating unfair competition for jobs with America's least prepared workers and thereby lowering wages and working conditions, and by imposing unwanted strains on services designed to provide assistance to Americans, illegal immigration causes harm to Americans and legal residents.
Illegals cost the taxpayers roughly around 45 Billion tax dollars a year. This is not just lost jobs this is money you and me pay in our taxes to help school there children, give them welfare, emergency medical bills and incarceration for those arrested for crimes.
This does not make me a Bigot, this makes me an American!
lakading
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If you want a better wage, earn it. Entrepreneurs are not greedy. They are innovators and risk takers. To say that they are greedy simply because your risk tolerance is pretty much non existant and you have an entitlement attitude is quite rediculous.
aplusmnt":18qe3875 said:
Macon ban political discussion a long time ago. If this is political as you say it is needs to go away. I also believe you have shown extreme prejudicial views towards Hispanics. We used to have several great Hispanic Ranchers that posted on this board that owned operations in the US and Mexico before you came along. I bet they would find your views highly insulting as well as degrading.
LonghornRanch
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I like how Caustic talks about "corporate greed", then gives us a lesson on stock fund investments!
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LonghornRanch":s7yp89jk said:
This might help you
Funds for Christian Investors
Here are profiles of three mutual funds that use religious teachings as a stock-screening tool. Two earn 4-Stars ratings from S&P
Even as many Americans who identify themselves as Christian neglect their weekly churchgoing obligations, they're finding other avenues to express their faith. One way is through their investments. Advertisement
"People are learning that it really does matter where you invest your money," says Art Ally, president of The Timothy Plan family of mutual funds, which screen out companies that don't follow biblical precepts. The Timothy funds are among a growing number that use religious principals to select investments.
Such funds are proving a popular choice among some investors. "Our assets are growing faster than the overall industry," says Ally. "We understand why. Just look at all the corporate scandals that have broken in recent years. We never invested in any of those companies."
Says Bob Leech, president of the Presbyterian Church U.S.A. Foundation, which runs several mutual funds under the New Covenant name: "We have seen studies that suggest that 56% of people incorporate their moral principles into their investing decisions. We serve those people."
Here are profiles of three mutual funds that use religious teachings as an underpinning of their investment process.
Ave Maria Catholic Values Fund (AVEMX )
The "values" in the name of this fund is a play on words, according to its president, George Schwartz. "It's a value fund in its investment outlook, but we also screen according to several parameters set up for us by a board made up of Catholic lay professionals, incorporating Catholic values," explains Schwartz.
Specifically, this means the fund never invests in companies involved in abortion or pornography, nor does it invest in any company that contributes to Planned Parenthood. The fund also screens out companies that offer nonmarital partner benefits.
"These screens eliminate about 400 companies from the Russell 3000," says Schwartz. "Then we look for companies that are selling for less than our estimate of their intrinsic value. We keep a well-diversified portfolio, across all capitalizations and in 16 different industries."
Ave Maria currently has assets under management of $250 million, up from $144 million at the end of 2003. Since its inception in May of 2001 through the end of February, 2005, the fund has put up an average annual gain of 11.9%. Ave Maria is a no-load fund with a minimum initial investment of $1,000 and an annual expense ratio of 1.5%, in line with peers. The fund has a 4-Stars ranking from Standard & Poor's (the highest ranking is 5 Stars).
"Our most recent purchases include the largest of the large-caps and also a tiny micro-cap," says Schwartz. ExxonMobil (XOM ), the biggest company in the world, is in the portfolio, he says. Lots of other large-cap stocks pass his screens, he says, and the fund has positions in Caterpillar (CAT ), 3M (MMM ), and Automatic Data Processing (ADP ). One small-cap holdings is Input/Output Inc. (IO ), which has a market cap of less than $200 million.
He says the fund pays no mind to sector weightings. "Our approach is completely bottom-up," says Schwartz. "We don't care if we're underweight or overweight any benchmark." In fact, he notes the fund has almost nothing in technology. "We have been overweight energy, and that has done well for us," he says.
He has also been overweighting retailers. "We think opportunities in the next 12 months will be in specialty retailers," he says. "We have set ourselves up with positions in Brookstone (BKST ) and Dollar Tree Stores (DLTR )."
In addition, Schwartz says he has been adding selectively in defense and aerospace names like Rockwell Collins (COL ) and General Dynamics (GD ).
New Covenant Growth Fund (NCGFX )
This fund is operated by and for members of the Presbyterian Church. "The New Covenant Growth fund is invested in a way that is consistent with Presbyterian values," says Leech of the Presbyterian Church U.S.A. Foundation. "The church takes a strong moral position against companies that are involved with gambling, alcohol, or firearm sales. We think we screen out about 500 stocks. We think that we can still put up competitive returns, beating the indexes, even as we screen out certain companies."
Over the past three years, the fund beat the S&P 500-stock index, with an average annual gain of 4.8%. The no-load fund has an expense ratio of 1.13%, below peers, and an initial minimum investment requirement of $500. Standard & Poor's gives it 4 Stars.
"As for our investment thesis, we still like the financial-services sector," said Leech. Bank of America (BAC ) and Citigroup (C ) are in the top 10 list. "Both are premier banking organizations with international franchises," says Leech. "We know there are concerns about rising interest rates, but we think these two banks are well positioned to operate well in any interest rate environment. We're still fairly bullish on both of them."
Leech also likes the energy sector, specifically because he expects oil prices to stay high. The fund owns ConocoPhillips (COP ) and ExxonMobil (XOM ).
Consumer products companies are also in the fund. "Procter & Gamble (PG ) is a top 10 holding," says Leech. "We think this is a recession-proof company. We think the acquisition of Gillette was a good move."
Timothy Plan Large/Mid-Cap Value Fund/A (TLVAX )
The Timothy family of funds was one of the first to use biblical principles as a part of the investment process. The Large/Mid-Cap Value fund was launched in 1999 and now has about $50 million in assets under management.
"We are very strict," says fund family President Ally. "We do not invest in companies that are involved in abortion, contribute to Planned Parenthood, involved in pornography, promote nontraditional lifestyles or a homosexual agenda, market alcohol, sell tobacco, or companies involved in gambling. We really do have zero tolerance for these types of behavior."
The fund has an average annual return since inception of 5.4%. The front-end load is 5.25% and the expense ratio is 1.5%. In February, its ranking was downgraded to 1 from 2 Stars by Standard & Poor's.
Some of the top holdings at the end of 2004, the last period for which the fund has published this information, include International Rectifier (IRF ), CVS Corp. (CVS ), Dean Foods (DF ), and Union Pacific (UNP ).
aplusmnt
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Capt Call":1o9q0wdn said:
I will search and find the rules of this board and read them, I am sure they are somewhere on here. But lots of issues discussed are of political nature. Politics have a large part of our lives as well as the cattle Industry, Subsidies, Bans or import and export etc.....
As far as any Mexican Rancher finding my views highly insulting. If they are legal Ranchers, who are here legally or those that Ranch in Mexico, there is no reason to find my views degrading. Most Mexicans that spent the time and effort to get her legally would probably share my views on the illegals. It is a spit in the face for the illegals to bypass the process that they chose. Besides the prejudice and hassles that has been brought upon them (legals) because others choose to disobey this lands laws.
Illegal immigrantion probably hurts those that came here legally more than anyone. And I doubt they like working and paying their taxes to see 45 billion tax dollars a year go to supporting illegals any more than us born here.
So if you came here legally there is no reason to take offense to my view. If they came here illegally, then I could care less if they take offense.
