I have some customers who want weaning weight and he should do that without huge Milk and negative $EN. Ideally my bull calves would all have 205 day weights between 700-750 and we can do that on our forage base. I am always watching cow size with that as I have some older cows that run 1600#+. Younger ones tend to be more in the 1400# range, which is more where we need to be. He is good on PAP with some data. I used him on some cows that needed more growth. See how they calve - may use on smaller True North and U2 Coalition heifers and cows if he calves true to his EPD. But, going to see how this crop of calves look before ordering. Might be a little cautious about keeping daughters if too big of frame, but MH EPD looks acceptable.