Bright Raven
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TennesseeTuxedo":19sxweca said:The Ash are dying all over Kentucky.
They are totally gone here. I got a bunch of standing skeletons is all.
TennesseeTuxedo":19sxweca said:The Ash are dying all over Kentucky.
Bright Raven":f53bo022 said:TennesseeTuxedo":f53bo022 said:The Ash are dying all over Kentucky.
They are totally gone here. I got a bunch of standing skeletons is all.
Explain this statement please because I have never seen that in Appalachian hardwoods.ddd75":1iv4kedl said:Lucky_P":1iv4kedl said:Cows are notoriously poor forest managers.
Hoof compaction, browsing/rubbing seedlings. etc., causes more damage and economic loss than the forage provided by running cows 'in the woods'; stats I've seen put forward say it takes about 40 acres of typical Southeastern forest to support 1 cow-calf pair.
Our cattle are fenced off from the 85 acres of hardwood forest, except for a 40-ft shade strip we allowed them when we fenced this place.
Oaks, hickories are fine. too many maples to suit me. EAB not here yet, but its just a matter of time, and the ash will be gone
depending on the time of the year and conditions.. cattle can really benefit a woods.
littletom":2y6hluh6 said:Probably because all it ever does in ky is rain for the last 5 years anyway. I delt with the most awful fungus on tobacco for years. Became some what crazy over as it has cost me many thousands of dollars. So i do a lot of looking in the summers. Tree leaves are covered in fungus every summer. The plant pathologist and agronomist from uk are here every summer working with tobacco test plots. They sent several tree leaves in 50-11 different fungus on them weeds everything. Fact is the climate is changing all this rain is one big pima.
I think we're pretty close to it too.. never seen a fall so wet.. hardly a week without rain since mid august.. I'm going to guess we got about 10 inches since then? On a dry year we get under 10 total, I think 17 is average?Bright Raven":oat63tvp said:littletom":oat63tvp said:Probably because all it ever does in ky is rain for the last 5 years anyway. I delt with the most awful fungus on tobacco for years. Became some what crazy over as it has cost me many thousands of dollars. So i do a lot of looking in the summers. Tree leaves are covered in fungus every summer. The plant pathologist and agronomist from uk are here every summer working with tobacco test plots. They sent several tree leaves in 50-11 different fungus on them weeds everything. Fact is the climate is changing all this rain is one big pima.
The rain we got today puts us within one inch of being the wettest year on record for Kentucky.
hurleyjd":2z5yar44 said:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation_in_the_United_States
Sounds like the environmentalists in Florida. The lack of water quality is all the farmers and cattlemens fault, no one worries about all the golf courses and swimming pools....or just all the people in general.Ebenezer":v73uu4dh said:The pastures of today were hardwoods of yesterday. Funny that environmentalists never worry about what their house displaced, what their resort disrupted, what their trail bothers. The problem is always others.
Talk about hardwood changes in the east- talk about chestnuts.
In VA there are more acres of timberland now than in 1940. Many of the steep mountain farms are now in trees.Ebenezer":r4jn63zw said:The pastures of today were hardwoods of yesterday. Funny that environmentalists never worry about what their house displaced, what their resort disrupted, what their trail bothers. The problem is always others.
Talk about hardwood changes in the east- talk about chestnuts.
kenny thomas":3a4z2s3i said:In VA there are more acres of timberland now than in 1940. Many of the steep mountain farms are now in trees.Ebenezer":3a4z2s3i said:The pastures of today were hardwoods of yesterday. Funny that environmentalists never worry about what their house displaced, what their resort disrupted, what their trail bothers. The problem is always others.
Talk about hardwood changes in the east- talk about chestnuts.
Yes the biggest impact on the eastern forest was the chestnut blight. Its a different forest but it's still forest land.
It's very much the same way hrre. The yellow poplar is actually making you more money long term than the grass would have on the steep land.hillbilly beef man":28zfzexl said:kenny thomas":28zfzexl said:In VA there are more acres of timberland now than in 1940. Many of the steep mountain farms are now in trees.Ebenezer":28zfzexl said:The pastures of today were hardwoods of yesterday. Funny that environmentalists never worry about what their house displaced, what their resort disrupted, what their trail bothers. The problem is always others.
Talk about hardwood changes in the east- talk about chestnuts.
Yes the biggest impact on the eastern forest was the chestnut blight. Its a different forest but it's still forest land.
It is kind of sad to ride the back roads and see what is now timber what was clean pasture when I was a kid. The days of keeping steep pasture clean with a size are long gone. Most pasture that is too steep for a 4wd tractor has grown up (my own place included). But it is amazing how quick a place will grow up in poplar.
kenny thomas":2auk58f1 said:It's very much the same way hrre. The yellow poplar is actually making you more money long term than the grass would have on the steep land.
hillbilly beef man":y2g2l3a7 said:kenny thomas":y2g2l3a7 said:In VA there are more acres of timberland now than in 1940. Many of the steep mountain farms are now in trees.Ebenezer":y2g2l3a7 said:The pastures of today were hardwoods of yesterday. Funny that environmentalists never worry about what their house displaced, what their resort disrupted, what their trail bothers. The problem is always others.
Talk about hardwood changes in the east- talk about chestnuts.
Yes the biggest impact on the eastern forest was the chestnut blight. Its a different forest but it's still forest land.
It is kind of sad to ride the back roads and see what is now timber what was clean pasture when I was a kid. The days of keeping steep pasture clean with a size are long gone. Most pasture that is too steep for a 4wd tractor has grown up (my own place included). But it is amazing how quick a place will grow up in poplar.
kenny thomas":1skjaq10 said:The yellow poplar is actually making you more money long term than the grass would have on the steep land.
Stocker Steve":3gydb2uv said:kenny thomas":3gydb2uv said:The yellow poplar is actually making you more money long term than the grass would have on the steep land.
What is it used for?
Wanna buy some Tallow trees? They make good shade, grow quick, and I can pull 'em up easy in the wet soil I have right now.......special deal just for CT folks :tiphat: . :hide: :hide:but if you spend a little time when young, they make really nice shade