Ok I finally got a chance to stop and read some of the comments on how some of you folks would breed this cow. I am going to try to address most of the comments then reveal what direction I am thinking of going.
RD-Sam
She does need some improvement in carcass quality but I don't think she is all that bad as far as carcass, the average for Angus dams is:
CW 18 Marb. .34 Re .18 Fat .006 $W 24.42 $F 18.72 $G 22.50 $ 48.00
While the cow in question has current data of:
CW 26 Marb. .18 Re -.01 Fat .046 $W 31.80 $F 21.77 $G 6.29 $B 40.17
So can she use improvement yes and then what bulls will do that but also address the other items that need to be addressed.
Baldie Maker I like SIMM cattle and have a number of simm angus cross cows in my herd but breeding this particular cow to a SIMM bull isn't going to happen. I admit I am a bit prejudice and wouldn't consider a different breed.
JSCUNN
She is bred to Connealy Impression which in all honesty is not a bull that I would have selected for this cow. I concede that he will improved her WW and YW as well as her carcass numbers, but at the expense of adding more milk which I don't think she needs and the biggy of an EN of -25.35.
Houstoncutter – NOPE & NOPE
R V
I don't know that I would say she is better than my cows we flush some of the cows we have raised, she just offers a new twist to some of the genetics we already have in place. We will sell her bulls and retain some of her heifers; we may retain one of her bull calves for cleanup. We may also sell some of her heifers.
Doc Harris,
Sly and crafty lol you made me smile on that one! I don't know if I am sly or crafty but I sure enjoy these type of discussions. As always you have made some excellent points and I agree with you on balanced EPD's we don't breed for any extreme and am not about to start now. Unlike you I really like EXT influenced cattle and have had excellent results with them. I think all of us have certain genetic line that we like and dislike and that is a direct result of our experiences with these particular lines. I agree that I need to look at docility reduce M and increase $EN.
Consensus 7229 looks like he would improve in a number of areas but I have never seen any calves out of this bull and don't like the EN number. Also I don't know the frame size of this bull.
Leachman Resolution G228U Another bull that looks like he would work and I do like the EN number but again having never seen any progeny or knowing his fame size I would be nervous using him.
Rito 9M25 of Rita 5F56 a double whammy of too much milk and negative EN would eliminate him for me.
GAR Ingenuity Same problem with him as the Rito 9M25 bull
SS Objective T510 0T26 again same problem
I sure don't want to select for a single trait, but when I choose I want to do the best job I can to keep a nice balance on all of the traits.
W.B.
The honest truth is I have not decided how to breed this cow. I have however narrowed it down to about three different bulls none of which I have addressed as yet. Isn't it a shame that people would expect me to breed differently for the show ring. I have always felt that a cow that works in the pasture is the kind that should be winning in the show ring. But that is a discussion for another thread. I happen to like 6595 a bunch but don't feel it is the right fit for this cow. Her udder suspension isn't really all that bad when you consider that she is 12 years old, but is a consideration.
RV I agree Doc is spot on with what to look at to improve on but I am not sure that any of the bulls that he has mentioned will work well in my program.
Robert,
Funny you mentioned New Day 8005 because he is on my short list. We have used him a bunch and have never been disappointed with his bull or heifer calves. He would improve both WW and YW bring down milk a bit and improve carcass marginally. Overall I think he would be an excellent choice he is positive on Doc and slightly neg on EN.
Two other bulls I am considering are:
OCC Missing Link 830M registration 14456399 and OCC Juneau 807j registration # 13627989
As Doc said exciting times!
gizmom
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