ollie":3m8bhyj6 said:Wow. 1628#yw. Anyone know the actual weights? That is pounding the scales.
tapeworm":2hrh9y5m said:Youre right that is TOO heavy!!! Some of these breeders need to keep in mind that there are about half females come out of these matings and we have to use some of them to replace the cowherd...hopefully an effiecint cowherd. A yearling that big is a scary thing...I dont want to run any 2500 pound mature cows!!!
Hoff Gold Stock 160 204. Reg # 14806234. A Gold Label son out of a Hoff Investor S C 929 daughter. SVF Bandolier close up in the background.Frankie":35izqp8c said:ollie":35izqp8c said:Wow. 1628#yw. Anyone know the actual weights? That is pounding the scales.
Who is he?
Go ahead and bust out with the perfect yw for a bull tapeworm.tapeworm":md5wl4j3 said:Youre right that is TOO heavy!!! Some of these breeders need to keep in mind that there are about half females come out of these matings and we have to use some of them to replace the cowherd...hopefully an effiecint cowherd. A yearling that big is a scary thing...I dont want to run any 2500 pound mature cows!!!
la4angus":zu57mrnm said:Hoff Gold Stock 160 204. Reg # 14806234. A Gold Label son out of a Hoff Investor S C 929 daughter. SVF Bandolier close up in the background.Frankie":zu57mrnm said:ollie":zu57mrnm said:Wow. 1628#yw. Anyone know the actual weights? That is pounding the scales.
Who is he?
You're welcome Frankie. SVF Bandolier had the ability to put much muscle on his offspring. To bad there is no semen left and I don't have any.Frankie":3m8zjgtc said:Thank you.
I didn't get his actual height, but Molly said his frame score would be about a 7.5. That would put him standing about 53.4" to 54" as a yrlg and should be about 58" to 60" as a 2 yr old.klasqh":3tjnj3hx said:How tall??
Has to be a pretty good bull to weigh that.la4angus":1hhc028y said:I just received Hoff Gold Stocks actual WW and YW.
WW 940
YW 1562
He is an extremely long and thick bull.
Guess thats what you call a condesending question????LOL Have I ever heard of a terminal sire???? Yep..for about 30 something years probaly...maybe longer...not quite sure when that term came about. Youre right that everbody needs to buy bulls that fit em. But I know that you are not naive enough to think that all female progeny of terminal sires take a ride down the rail before they ever shed baby teeth. Someof those cattle work there way into the cowherd....especially with markets like they are now and demand for replacements as high as it is. Just how big will those cows mature??? What does that do to the average size of the cowherd??? All the time chasing those bigger and bigger numbers....to use on a cowherd that seems like to me is increasing in size ever year. Sure theres some move by a few to moderate cow size..but is it to little to late??? You may know all of those answers Frankie...I dont. I read your postings Frankie...you keep up with the commercial side of this business. Some breeders dont and you know that toFrankie":11v4hwcz said:tapeworm":11v4hwcz said:Youre right that is TOO heavy!!! Some of these breeders need to keep in mind that there are about half females come out of these matings and we have to use some of them to replace the cowherd...hopefully an effiecint cowherd. A yearling that big is a scary thing...I dont want to run any 2500 pound mature cows!!!
Ever hear of a terminal sire? Producers need to buy bulls that fit their needs; if this bull is too big for your operation, don't buy him. There have been a lot of heifers sold to feedlots the last few years that might have been more profitable if this bull had sired them.
Hello there Ollie..sorry youve been waiting all week. Tell you what I'm thinking about doing...thinking about trying to get in here more than once a week..so I can keep up better and you wont have to wait on me so long. Should have done it this week since I havent been sleeping so good having nightmares about that big black elephant we're talking about. LOL Maybe if you can tell me how to get one of those jobs youve got posting on the cattle boards all day i can do that instead of trying to runa cow operation for less than minimum wage...on second thought..never mind..I wouldnt swap places with you anyhow. Lets see..you saidollie":zixg0qn9 said:Go ahead and bust out with the perfect yw for a bull tapeworm.tapeworm":zixg0qn9 said:Youre right that is TOO heavy!!! Some of these breeders need to keep in mind that there are about half females come out of these matings and we have to use some of them to replace the cowherd...hopefully an effiecint cowherd. A yearling that big is a scary thing...I dont want to run any 2500 pound mature cows!!!
tapeworm":12zntzn9 said:Guess thats what you call a condesending question????LOL Have I ever heard of a terminal sire???? Yep..for about 30 something years probaly...maybe longer...not quite sure when that term came about. Youre right that everbody needs to buy bulls that fit em. But I know that you are not naive enough to think that all female progeny of terminal sires take a ride down the rail before they ever shed baby teeth. Someof those cattle work there way into the cowherd....especially with markets like they are now and demand for replacements as high as it is. Just how big will those cows mature??? What does that do to the average size of the cowherd??? All the time chasing those bigger and bigger numbers....to use on a cowherd that seems like to me is increasing in size ever year. Sure theres some move by a few to moderate cow size..but is it to little to late??? You may know all of those answers Frankie...I dont. I read your postings Frankie...you keep up with the commercial side of this business. Some breeders dont and you know that toFrankie":12zntzn9 said:tapeworm":12zntzn9 said:Youre right that is TOO heavy!!! Some of these breeders need to keep in mind that there are about half females come out of these matings and we have to use some of them to replace the cowherd...hopefully an effiecint cowherd. A yearling that big is a scary thing...I dont want to run any 2500 pound mature cows!!!
Ever hear of a terminal sire? Producers need to buy bulls that fit their needs; if this bull is too big for your operation, don't buy him. There have been a lot of heifers sold to feedlots the last few years that might have been more profitable if this bull had sired them.
My point is that some (not all) registered breeders dont have an end in sight...they just keep on chasing bigger numbers.....bigger weights and bigger ribeyes. Got to be bigger than the guy down the road..or bigger than the guy with the fancy ad on the opposite page. It would be helpful to the commercial rancher if they would get together with us and OUR customers...feeders (if you dont feed your own), packers, retailers....and decide where this cowherd is going to be in 10 years...because thats the kind of stuff I think about. Our retailers and packers are telling us what they want...moderate, consistent carcasses...not HUGE carcasses. I'm trying to tell breedrs what I want...moderate, efficent cows...not HUGE cows. We need to all be listening to each other instead of just always chasing bigger numbers. Thats my 2 cents and that may be all its worth
Frankie youre a smart guy...I always try to read all your postings...I know that youre real good at sortin peoples postings line by line and I expect that of you. LOL So read it over, sort it out then tell me where I'm wrong.
P.S. Please take it easy on me cuz I'm old and frail. LOL
Caustic Burno":2yaw8iaz said:tapeworm":2yaw8iaz said:Guess thats what you call a condesending question????LOL Have I ever heard of a terminal sire???? Yep..for about 30 something years probaly...maybe longer...not quite sure when that term came about. Youre right that everbody needs to buy bulls that fit em. But I know that you are not naive enough to think that all female progeny of terminal sires take a ride down the rail before they ever shed baby teeth. Someof those cattle work there way into the cowherd....especially with markets like they are now and demand for replacements as high as it is. Just how big will those cows mature??? What does that do to the average size of the cowherd??? All the time chasing those bigger and bigger numbers....to use on a cowherd that seems like to me is increasing in size ever year. Sure theres some move by a few to moderate cow size..but is it to little to late??? You may know all of those answers Frankie...I dont. I read your postings Frankie...you keep up with the commercial side of this business. Some breeders dont and you know that toFrankie":2yaw8iaz said:tapeworm":2yaw8iaz said:Youre right that is TOO heavy!!! Some of these breeders need to keep in mind that there are about half females come out of these matings and we have to use some of them to replace the cowherd...hopefully an effiecint cowherd. A yearling that big is a scary thing...I dont want to run any 2500 pound mature cows!!!
Ever hear of a terminal sire? Producers need to buy bulls that fit their needs; if this bull is too big for your operation, don't buy him. There have been a lot of heifers sold to feedlots the last few years that might have been more profitable if this bull had sired them.
My point is that some (not all) registered breeders dont have an end in sight...they just keep on chasing bigger numbers.....bigger weights and bigger ribeyes. Got to be bigger than the guy down the road..or bigger than the guy with the fancy ad on the opposite page. It would be helpful to the commercial rancher if they would get together with us and OUR customers...feeders (if you dont feed your own), packers, retailers....and decide where this cowherd is going to be in 10 years...because thats the kind of stuff I think about. Our retailers and packers are telling us what they want...moderate, consistent carcasses...not HUGE carcasses. I'm trying to tell breedrs what I want...moderate, efficent cows...not HUGE cows. We need to all be listening to each other instead of just always chasing bigger numbers. Thats my 2 cents and that may be all its worth
Frankie youre a smart guy...I always try to read all your postings...I know that youre real good at sortin peoples postings line by line and I expect that of you. LOL So read it over, sort it out then tell me where I'm wrong.
P.S. Please take it easy on me cuz I'm old and frail. LOL
I didn't think I would be able to say this but a pretty good post Parasite.
The breeders I hate are the ones you were talking about, as I to want the moderate cow. You will be wrong to Parasite if you don't believe that just wait on Frankies reply.
greenwillowherefords":1bwz0xc2 said:Caustic Burno":1bwz0xc2 said:tapeworm":1bwz0xc2 said:Guess thats what you call a condesending question????LOL Have I ever heard of a terminal sire???? Yep..for about 30 something years probaly...maybe longer...not quite sure when that term came about. Youre right that everbody needs to buy bulls that fit em. But I know that you are not naive enough to think that all female progeny of terminal sires take a ride down the rail before they ever shed baby teeth. Someof those cattle work there way into the cowherd....especially with markets like they are now and demand for replacements as high as it is. Just how big will those cows mature??? What does that do to the average size of the cowherd??? All the time chasing those bigger and bigger numbers....to use on a cowherd that seems like to me is increasing in size ever year. Sure theres some move by a few to moderate cow size..but is it to little to late??? You may know all of those answers Frankie...I dont. I read your postings Frankie...you keep up with the commercial side of this business. Some breeders dont and you know that toFrankie":1bwz0xc2 said:tapeworm":1bwz0xc2 said:Youre right that is TOO heavy!!! Some of these breeders need to keep in mind that there are about half females come out of these matings and we have to use some of them to replace the cowherd...hopefully an effiecint cowherd. A yearling that big is a scary thing...I dont want to run any 2500 pound mature cows!!!
Ever hear of a terminal sire? Producers need to buy bulls that fit their needs; if this bull is too big for your operation, don't buy him. There have been a lot of heifers sold to feedlots the last few years that might have been more profitable if this bull had sired them.
My point is that some (not all) registered breeders dont have an end in sight...they just keep on chasing bigger numbers.....bigger weights and bigger ribeyes. Got to be bigger than the guy down the road..or bigger than the guy with the fancy ad on the opposite page. It would be helpful to the commercial rancher if they would get together with us and OUR customers...feeders (if you dont feed your own), packers, retailers....and decide where this cowherd is going to be in 10 years...because thats the kind of stuff I think about. Our retailers and packers are telling us what they want...moderate, consistent carcasses...not HUGE carcasses. I'm trying to tell breedrs what I want...moderate, efficent cows...not HUGE cows. We need to all be listening to each other instead of just always chasing bigger numbers. Thats my 2 cents and that may be all its worth
Frankie youre a smart guy...I always try to read all your postings...I know that youre real good at sortin peoples postings line by line and I expect that of you. LOL So read it over, sort it out then tell me where I'm wrong.
P.S. Please take it easy on me cuz I'm old and frail. LOL
I didn't think I would be able to say this but a pretty good post Parasite.
The breeders I hate are the ones you were talking about, as I to want the moderate cow. You will be wrong to Parasite if you don't believe that just wait on Frankies reply.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
BTW, Frankie is a lady.