SBMF 2015 said:
gcreekrch said:
Sub Q is Sub Q. The reason for the neck area is apparently because of more blood flow there. Have had this discussion with several vets and their opinion is the same. Sub Q is Sub Q.
A lot of idiots are still giving injections and vaccinations in the rump " because you can't see a lump when given there".
Yeah, and I've seen good Ol' boy vets give Nuflor behind the ribs! Or the local vet that used to grind sulfa tabs in the blender then add water to make injectable sulfa. Just because you can doesn't mean that it's right.
Sub Q, so you always use a 5/8" 16ga needle? Unless you are tenting the hide anything longer will be a deeper injection than Sub Q.
I don't claim to know everything, but back in the glory days fifteen years ago I was averaging a thousand head feeders through the chute a month plus stock cows. Most of those feeders got at least 3 vaccines and an injectable wormer. I got real good real fast at not stacking vaccines and knowing which ones had to be on opposite sides of the neck to avoid bigger reactions.
It is our responsibility as producers to take the time to do it right every time, because the world is watching us. And don't think for a second that they aren't looking for reasons to convince the public that what we do is evil. Even though we know it is for the benefit of the animal. There is a reason that we have to get a VFD now to use feed grade antibiotics. Enough producers didn't fallow the labels and the NCBA, along with veterinarians, and nutritionists decided we better do something to self police this problem before the USDA bands these products all together.
Don't worry they want to ban injectables to. They just don't have enough ammunition yet to get it done, but they will if we give it to them.
When they mandate traceability at the sale barns then the packers will dictate how you care for your animals, and it will have a trickle down effect to the cow calf operations. Tyson fresh meats has already started this. You have to prove that you are BQA certified to sell fed cattle at barns that Tyson sends a buyer to.
I'll get off my soap box, but we have to do things correctly.