I agree with ya!I’ve been at this cattle thing for quite a while, but admittedly I’m still learning, and I realize that there is still much I don’t know. I have an idea in my head of what I want in a cow or bull. Sometimes I will miss something.
On here there are a lot of folks that have great eyes and heads full of knowledge about cattle. I know there isn’t a perfect animal, but some do come a lot closer than others, and honest constructive criticism and explanations are helpful.
If somebody says this or that is awful or bad quality, those statements make a point, and it’s duly noted, but I really do appreciate when people explain reasons. That gives something to look for and compare against in the future.
I usually don’t get offended easily, unless somebody is just flat out coming across as hateful, or disrespectful.
Here is how I know. We had copper deficiency in our cows. We were in an area where there was high sulfates in the water, but we didn't know that til years later. Our herd health suffered because of it. We even moved our ranching operation across the state, because no one back then, had any idea why our calves got so sick. For 8 years. After getting on Vigortone mineral (that's why I am so passionate about feeding mineral) the area manager used our cattle for before and after pictures. Honestly, we were ready to quit. Then we found out it was copper deficiency from him. We had tried universities, feed dealers, veterinarians, eveyone and no one knew til he looked at our cattle in 1994. This sickness started in early 1985 and it wasn't until 1994 that we were able to identify and fix the problem. It was smooth sailing with our cattle/herd health from then on. Oh yeah, we gave all the vaccines, but without a good immune system the vaccines aren't effective. We lived it for 8 years, so we know about copper deficiency and how it marks brown on their wither. It's pretty easy to identify once you know to look for it.If you are right then I have learned something I did not know. For that I am grateful. Thank you.
Those two are in different groups so I haven’t been able to compare them side by side. The white face calf is definitely the thicker of the two, I believe there is more difference than just what could be discounted from the black calf being from a first calf heifer. Even though they are sired by half brothers the females in their pedigrees are notably different.A few years ago I was watching an online sale on the off chance some yearling heifers sold for prices that were reasonable. Well they did -- I'd only evaluated using online video and I purchased a couple that I had noted as prospects based only on video, pedigree, and epds. When they arrived it was remarkable how different they were in person. Things like height, thickness, length -- can be very hard to ascertain via video or photo only.
I'd love a side by side of this calf and the one in your other thread. But you probably can see things in the pen with them that we simply can't.