Heifer bull prospects

[tex452]

70# calves and under?
These will be for Brahman heifers.

 

[Ebenezer]

Most look postlegged or wonky on the rear legs. #2 is the only decent looking one and you wonder if he would be calving ease. #1 and #4 need to be steered and cut #3 while you are at it unless the pictures are terrible.

 

[50/50Farms]

Somebody ought to have cut number four for damn sure.

 

[tex452]

Most look postlegged or wonky on the rear legs. #2 is the only decent looking one and you wonder if he would be calving ease. #1 and #4 need to be steered and cut #3 while you are at it unless the pictures are terrible.

3 looks like it has some Brahman in it.
A breeder sent these to my son.
I'm not impressed at all.

 

[Ky hills]

If I had to pick from them it would be 2 or 3, probably 3 would be my first pick and wouldn't be real happy about them. 1 and 4 would be a solid no. The fourth one looks like it's already a steer.
I agree that 3 looks like he has something else possibly sone Brahman in him, that's why I said he may be a possibility if I couldn't find anything else he atleast has that going for him,

 

[tex452]

If I had to pick from them it would be 2 or 3, probably 3 would be my first pick and wouldn't be real happy about them. 1 and 4 would be a solid no. The fourth one looks like it's already a steer.
I agree that 3 looks like he has something else possibly sone Brahman in him, that's why I said he may be a possibility if I couldn't find anything else he atleast has that going for him,

I found out it is 1/4 Santa gertrudis

 

[tex452]

We're just kicking around breeding these heifers, our plan was to sell them as open.
My son is adamant about putting Hereford on them, but I have been looking at angus and black Hereford.
The problem we been having with black Hereford is finding low birth rates.

 

[Ky hills]

I found out it is 1/4 Santa gertrudis

That makes sense.

 

[Ky hills]

We're just kicking around breeding these heifers, our plan was to sell them as open.
My son is adamant about putting Hereford on them, but I have been looking at angus and black Hereford.
The problem we been having with black Hereford is finding low birth rates.

Brahman heifers may be different, but I've always preferred Angus bulls for heifers.

 

[Travlr]

70# calves and under?
These will be for Brahman heifers.

Most look postlegged or wonky on the rear legs. #2 is the only decent looking one and you wonder if he would be calving ease. #1 and #4 need to be steered and cut #3 while you are at it unless the pictures are terrible.

Ebenezer hit the nail on the head... I'd like a better picture of #2 before giving him the thumbs up. They all look light in the rear.

 

[Brute 23]

I would not go too small of birth weight on Brahmans. If they are good heifers and not scrawny, small boned, stuff they will handle any thing in the #70s no problem. Definitely would not go with these #50- low 60 lbw Angus bulls. The calves need to have some get up and get after it in them on Brahman cows. The Hereford cross will help a lot with that.

 

[alacowman1]

Brahman heifers may be different, but I've always preferred Angus bulls for heifers.

I used Hereford and simmental both on Brahman heifers….

 

[alacowman1]

70# calves and under?
These will be for Brahman heifers.

I'd keep looking..if you value those heifers, then they deserve better..

 

[Ky hills]

I used Hereford and simmental both on Brahman heifers….

I've had a few Brahman influenced cattle but never a pure one. One of my Brahman Hereford crosses, when the vet pelvic measured her said that she was big enough inside to have a baby elephant.
I've used 2 Hereford bulls on Angus and Hereford heifers one did fine and the other that was supposed to be a calving ease bull we pulled 2/3 of his calves from heifers, so I'm reluctant on them unless I know something about them.

 

[Named'em Tamed'em]

I'd like more A$$ on them.

 

[Warren Allison]

We're just kicking around breeding these heifers, our plan was to sell them as open.
My son is adamant about putting Hereford on them, but I have been looking at angus and black Hereford.
The problem we been having with black Hereford is finding low birth rates.

If these are pb Brahmas, and if you wait til they are 20-22 months old to breed them, you won't have too worry much about birth weight. I usually waited til at least 2yrs old.

 

[Warren Allison]

We're just kicking around breeding these heifers, our plan was to sell them as open.
My son is adamant about putting Hereford on them, but I have been looking at angus and black Hereford.
The problem we been having with black Hereford is finding low birth rates.

I don't think you need to worry about low birth weights all that much. Back in the early 70's when the cow-killer Charolais and pallet-head Simmentals first came, no one had the problems calving with Brahma cows like they did with Angus and Hereford cows. And other than breeding to a Brahma, there is no other cross that will bring you more money. My client that I bought the 80 brahma for last year had 20 that were bred to a black Hereford and the rest to a Hereford. The black f1 heifers brought $200 more than the red or chocolate did, and $300 more than the tiger stripes. The black f1 steers will bring 20-30 cents or more per pound that the others will, too.

 

[tex452]

I've had a few Brahman influenced cattle but never a pure one. One of my Brahman Hereford crosses, when the vet pelvic measured her said that she was big enough inside to have a baby elephant.
I've used 2 Hereford bulls on Angus and Hereford heifers one did fine and the other that was supposed to be a calving ease bull we pulled 2/3 of his calves from heifers, so I'm reluctant on them unless I know something about them.

I don't think you need to worry about low birth weights all that much. Back in the early 70's when the cow-killer Charolais and pallet-head Simmentals first came, no one had the problems calving with Brahma cows like they did with Angus and Hereford cows. And other than breeding to a Brahma, there is no other cross that will bring you more money. My client that I bought the 80 brahma for last year had 20 that were bred to a black Hereford and the rest to a Hereford. The black f1 heifers brought $200 more than the red or chocolate did, and $300 more than the tiger stripes. The black f1 steers will bring 20-30 cents or more per pound that the others will, too.

Raising heifers over the years got me head shy, I had some f1 brangus that were big, we had to pull almost all of them, some of that was my fault, I put them on wheat after they were bred , I had an angus bull but my brangus bull got to most of them.
I agree on the black F1's that's the route I want to take if we breed them.

 

[houstoncutter]

70# calves and under?
These will be for Brahman heifers.

If your breeding Brahman heifers you don't need to be concerned about birth weight.

 

[tex452]

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