Heard a rumor yesterday.

[Bestoutwest]

The medical industry is fubar in my opinion.

My with fell a few weeks back trying to play with the kids in the creek.
First trip to er. Yep fracture in forearm. 500.00 copay. They did nothing.

Next stop had to be primary doctor...40.00
He looks at xray from er. Prescription of pain meds refers to orthopedic doctor. ...60.00
Does more xrays same conclusion. Puts on a temporary cast. Looks like something you would buy at Wal-Mart
Has to go once a week so he can look at it.. I can only imagine how much my 1000.00 per month insurance will get billed.
I told her after we left the er . You'll end up with a dozen doctor visits over this and know one will do a be nice thing. Tiny little fracture would heal fine. Every single one of knew it.
You just get passed around till they bleed your insurance for all they can.

The cost of the medical industry needs help, I will definitely agree to that. I work in medicine. Just like all professions there are good MD's and bad MD's. I've never heard of a person going back every week for a FX recheck. The 'flimsy' cast they gave her was b/c of the swelling. If they had put on a real cast that first day it wouldn't have worked. And I agree, the cost of medicine is out of control, especially with specialists (ortho, spine, neuro, etc.). I have also been a patient (major cardiac issues) and understand your frustration. I would suggest another ortho guy if you feel frustrated. Seriously.

Another suggestion for everyone is if you think you've got a small fracture in your arm, wrist, hand, foot, etc, go to your local Urgent Care instead of the ER. It's usually faster, a lot cheaper, and they can do pretty much the same thing.

 

[Bestoutwest]

If I hadn't seen it first hand I wouldn't believe it either. For some folks cancer treatments work on and other folk's with the exact same kind of cancer the treatments don't work? Give me a break, I don't buy it. The same vaccinations and cures for disease work for all of us, no matter what color or race, except for cancer. And now look at AIDS no one with money dies from AIDS anymore. It's pretty simple to see from my simple mind what's going on there. The doctors and the medical industry make nothing off of the healthy people, everyone knows $money is an evil people kill for it daily.
If the research center is receiving $30 billion dollars a year, the researchers are doing good right now, who wants to work themselves out of a job? We all know there's no crooks close by Bethesda Maryland, the crook capital of the world.

That's like saying all crimes deserve the same punishment (which is not a bullet behind the ear!). There are mitigating circumstances that dictate treatment. What works in one person does not in another b/c there are so many differences between people.

 

[True Grit Farms]

We all have different beliefs and outlooks even within the same family. Shooting murderers, rapist and child molesters behind the ear will solve more problems then any other means of punishment. If you don't believe that your wrong, or a bleeding heart liberal, or maybe a Lawyer. Getting back on the health issues, a person's diet makes a world of difference in their health. But a lot of folks aren't smart enough to figure it out.
GB, why aren't we building a permanent space station on the moon?

 

[Bestoutwest]

We all have different beliefs and outlooks even within the same family. Shooting murderers, rapist and child molesters behind the ear will solve more problems then any other means of punishment. If you don't believe that your wrong, or a bleeding heart liberal, or maybe a Lawyer. Getting back on the health issues, a person's diet makes a world of difference in their health. But a lot of folks aren't smart enough to figure it out.
GB, why aren't we building a permanent space station on the moon?

It was a joke. I believe that there are crimes that warrant the death penalty, however in this day and age it's become simply too expensive to perpetrate (that's thanks to the REAL bleeding heart liberal lawyers). Therefore, it's become obsolete. It's a shame, actually. I've said it before and I'll say it again, we have more common ground than you're willing to admit to.

You're exactly right on the diet thing, it's a very important factor in developing and treating illnesses (including mental illness). People eat junk and expect good results. Well, what happens to your cattle when you feed them junk hay? I've seen people pay $20 for a 5lb bag of dog food and then throw chips and other crap in their carts for them. Needless to say, they weren't very athletic.

 

[Bigfoot]

Said something to her parents last night. I hated to do it, but I couldn't have lived with myself if something had happened.

 

[True Grit Farms]

Said something to her parents last night. I hated to do it, but I couldn't have lived with myself if something had happened.

Hopefully it won't fall on deaf ears Bigfoot. I tried that with my Best friend, and his mother refused to believe that there was a problem.

 

[inyati13]

Said something to her parents last night. I hated to do it, but I couldn't have lived with myself if something had happened.

That would be something I would not do!

I am not judging your action. I don't know your relationship with the family. You have a good heart and you did what your conscience dictated.

I have nieces who have friend-ed me on FaceBook. I see things they do that concerns me but I am confident it is fairly normal for their generation.

Personally, if someone asks me about breeding a cow or vaccination, etc. I will volunteer information with enthusiasm. But I do not assess other people's mental health. I may wonder privately. The suicides I have learned about through life associations are the ones you least suspect. Sometimes very sweet kind people who are relatively introverted and quite. I knew a gentleman who worked for a Utility Company. Had a grandson. He was very nice man who devoted himself to his grandson. Went out into his utility truck and fired a 30-30 bullet up under his chin and out the top of his head. I dated a Hispanic woman in Denver. Her father laid down on the floor and fired a .357 bullet out the top of his head. I have related that story on here. I was the first one who went into the house after authorities removed the body.

As a person who respects professionals and science, I think I have less confidence in the disciple of psychoanalysis than any other disciple.

 

[callmefence]

Said something to her parents last night. I hated to do it, but I couldn't have lived with myself if something had happened.

That would be something I would not do!

I am not judging your action. I don't know your relationship with the family. You have a good heart and you did what your conscience dictated.

I

I have nieces who have friend-ed me on FaceBook. I see things they do that concerns me but I am confident it is fairly normal for their generation.

Personally, if someone asks me about breeding a cow or vaccination, etc. I will volunteer information with enthusiasm. But I do not assess other people's mental health. I may wonder privately. The suicides I have learned about through life associations are the ones you least suspect. Sometimes very sweet kind people who are relatively introverted and quite. I knew a gentleman who worked for a Utility Company. Had a grandson. He was very nice man who devoted himself to his grandson. Went out into his utility truck and fired a 30-30 bullet up under his chin and out the top of his head. I dated a Hispanic woman in Denver. Her father laid down on the floor and fired a .357 bullet out the top of his head. I have related that story on here. I was the first one who went into the house after authorities removed the body.

As a person who respects professionals and science, I think I have less confidence in the disciple of psychoanalysis than any other disciple.

I would not equate giving a another parent a (..hey I might be wrong and you do with this what you want) to be making a assessment.
Bigfoot may have seen something they haven't.

 

[inyati13]

Said something to her parents last night. I hated to do it, but I couldn't have lived with myself if something had happened.

That would be something I would not do!

I am not judging your action. I don't know your relationship with the family. You have a good heart and you did what your conscience dictated.

I

I have nieces who have friend-ed me on FaceBook. I see things they do that concerns me but I am confident it is fairly normal for their generation.

Personally, if someone asks me about breeding a cow or vaccination, etc. I will volunteer information with enthusiasm. But I do not assess other people's mental health. I may wonder privately. The suicides I have learned about through life associations are the ones you least suspect. Sometimes very sweet kind people who are relatively introverted and quite. I knew a gentleman who worked for a Utility Company. Had a grandson. He was very nice man who devoted himself to his grandson. Went out into his utility truck and fired a 30-30 bullet up under his chin and out the top of his head. I dated a Hispanic woman in Denver. Her father laid down on the floor and fired a .357 bullet out the top of his head. I have related that story on here. I was the first one who went into the house after authorities removed the body.

As a person who respects professionals and science, I think I have less confidence in the disciple of psychoanalysis than any other disciple.

I would not equate giving a another parent a (..hey I might be wrong and you do with this what you want) to be making a assessment.
Bigfoot may have seen something they haven't.

Not something I am confident in doing. Too much room for error. I had a co-worker in Montana make a comment about my son. It was so silly I laughed. My son now has a PhD in Cancer Cell biology and is working for Eli Lilly. Has a girl friend who has a PhD in molecular biology. I am not comfortable getting into someone else's personal life unless what I know it is a lead pipe cinch.

 

[bball]

Said something to her parents last night. I hated to do it, but I couldn't have lived with myself if something had happened.

Thats no small thing BF. Every man has to put his head on his pillow at night. I would do the same if I had a concern for someone. I hope it was well received. Just a few brief questions can be quite revealing for interventions sake...

 

[Bigfoot]

We all do, what we feel like we gotta do. I felt awkward saying something, but I had convinced myself that something was going on. I can take some strange looks across the dinner table at family gatherings, easier than I can live with guilt. I don't regret doing it.

 

[cow pollinater]

Said something to her parents last night. I hated to do it, but I couldn't have lived with myself if something had happened.

Good for you. Worst case scenario is there's nothing there and they don't see that you're coming from a position of caring and hold it against you. That's a very small risk when weighed against the possible outcome if you hadn't spoke up.
I believe that part of the problem with depression is the feeling that you are insignificant and that others don't care. In our society today there are plenty of examples someone thinking that way could grab onto to further those thoughts. We seem to have lost the willingness to step in and help each other and call it like it is. I've known of to many suicide cases where nobody is all that shocked but they didn't care enough to step in ahead of time.

 

[Commercialfarmer]

Said something to her parents last night. I hated to do it, but I couldn't have lived with myself if something had happened.

Good for you. Worst case scenario is there's nothing there and they don't see that you're coming from a position of caring and hold it against you. That's a very small risk when weighed against the possible outcome if you hadn't spoke up.
I believe that part of the problem with depression is the feeling that you are insignificant and that others don't care. In our society today there are plenty of examples someone thinking that way could grab onto to further those thoughts. We seem to have lost the willingness to step in and help each other and call it like it is. I've known of to many suicide cases where nobody is all that shocked but they didn't care enough to step in ahead of time.

:nod:

 

[Commercialfarmer]

Met a guy that was born in South Korea to parents from very afluent families but grew up in the US. His dad loved America and instilled that in his kids. This guy thinks everything about America is great, the very best except wireless technology. He said that you could get wifi pretty much throughout the whole country and the phones, etc.. are faster.

His wife is from South Korea and is a MD there, I believe an OBG. Said that their residents see the most patients in there residencies in the world, and the US see the least. We have the best medical technology in the world, but probably not the most experienced doctors. We also have the most all around knowledgable medical doctors. Most countries don't have the diverse populations that we do. In S Korea, he said they are great at treating liver disease and colon cancer because that is what they see in there genetic population. If you had a heart attack, you'd probably die because they just don't really see them.

The cost of medicine here is probably 20x more. My colonoscopy at MD Anderson I think was around 8k by the time the doctors and hospital had everything all added up.

He said he is going to see his wife next month and is planning to have a colonoscopy done while there because of genetic predisposition for cancer. Out of pocket, it's $400 out the door.

The biggest difference.... people can't sue their doctor. It's against the law.

That's good and bad in my opinion.

My sister in law just lost her mother to negligence. She had a procedure done in a surgery clinic and all went well. 3 days later she went into a hypoglycemic coma and shock. She's diabetic and no one checked her blood sugar level for over an entire nurse's shift, and when they found her sugar below 20 they started giving her sugar. But they didn't send her to an ER until she coded 5 hrs later. She died in the ER- with the ER doctor being furious they waited so long to send her.

That's negligence at a minimum. The lady had raised her family and was in the process of raising two kids from a bad situation that weren't hers.

Because of them, I'd like to ring someone's neck. Probably the nurse that stole her pain medication. Probably the doctor who had her case and didn't immediately send her to the ER for the shock she was experiencing.

I'm glad that someone gets to compensate the man who lost his wife, the special needs kid is going to need things he can't provide by himself. I'd hate to see all lawsuits eradicated. But, maybe a reasonable ceiling would be a good start.

 

[True Grit Farms]

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[NECowboy]

We all do, what we feel like we gotta do. I felt awkward saying something, but I had convinced myself that something was going on. I can take some strange looks across the dinner table at family gatherings, easier than I can live with guilt. I don't regret doing it.

Hope she took it ok. Glad you did that BF even if she wasn't thrilled hopefully she will realize that she has someone she can talk to about it and a reason to turn things around in her life.

 

[Bigfoot]

We all do, what we feel like we gotta do. I felt awkward saying something, but I had convinced myself that something was going on. I can take some strange looks across the dinner table at family gatherings, easier than I can live with guilt. I don't regret doing it.

Hope she took it ok. Glad you did that BF even if she wasn't thrilled hopefully she will realize that she has someone she can talk to about it and a reason to turn things around in her life.

I just talked to her parents, and not her.

 

[NECowboy]

We all do, what we feel like we gotta do. I felt awkward saying something, but I had convinced myself that something was going on. I can take some strange looks across the dinner table at family gatherings, easier than I can live with guilt. I don't regret doing it.

Hope she took it ok. Glad you did that BF even if she wasn't thrilled hopefully she will realize that she has someone she can talk to about it and a reason to turn things around in her life.

I just talked to her parents, and not her.

I think u need to talk to her, tell her ur there for her and she can talk to u whenever she likes.

 

[Bigfoot]

Hope she took it ok. Glad you did that BF even if she wasn't thrilled hopefully she will realize that she has someone she can talk to about it and a reason to turn things around in her life.

I just talked to her parents, and not her.

I think u need to talk to her, tell her ur there for her and she can talk to u whenever she likes.

I think they've all had a talk.

 

[NECowboy]

I just talked to her parents, and not her.

I think u need to talk to her, tell her ur there for her and she can talk to u whenever she likes.

I think they've all had a talk.

If u think she respects and looks up to you then she needs all the friends she can get right now...