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[chrisy]

I'll rest my case!!!

 

[aplusmnt]

Is the "pry it from my cold, dead hands" crowd really what Jefferson, Madison, and Mason had in mind when they were crafting the Bill of Rights?

I seriously doubt Jefferson, Madison and Mason would have ever imagined that cancer spreading liberal groups would fight so strong to take away the rights that they fought to give us and outlined in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. I imagine they would be rolling over in their graves if they could see the battles we have to fight to keep intact these liberties such as "Right to Bear arms" "Freedom of Religion" or issues involving "Freedom of Speech.

I imagine that they would be right there taking the stand similiar to what they did during the Revolutionary war when they fought to free themselves from the tyranny of a Government that looked to keep these freedoms away from them.

Ps. What does women have to do with it? You have good women and bad women just like men. In comparison, I see Dr. Condoleezza Rice (Secretary of State) taking such a stand while Women like Hillary Clinton & Congresswoman Nancy Relosi try hard to take away them Freedoms of liberty that Jefferson and other founding fathers fought hard with sweat and blood to give us.

Ps.2 Hated to use political examples but these are the women that are shaping our country. Sorry if it gets it locked!

 

[aplusmnt]

On a lighter note, I decided to exercise my Right to bear arms today.

Bought me a new gun today. Bought a Marlin Model 410 Lever action 410 gauge shot gun. I been wanting one of the Winchester 9410's but could never find one, and this Marlin fell into my lap today. Not a big Marlin fan, but I am sure it will be nice shotgun to have around for snakes and will fit nice in a Scabbard when riding the Mules and Horse.

Also looked at some Henry 22 rifles for my kids. Been thinking of steeping them up from their single shot ones. Any opinions out there about Henry Rifles. I did like they were American made. But are they cheap junk?

 

[Caustic Burno]

Caustic Burno:

Aplus all I can say to these liberal socialist that you have been debating with is I am willing to shoot them when they come and try and take my guns. The question is are they willing to get shot?

Statements like this make me realize how much better this country would be if women were represented in our government proportionally to their population. We'd have a whole lot more common sense and a whole lot less strutting.

I mean, really, can any of you picture a woman spouting off with this type of chest-pounding, violent stupidity.

Is the "pry it from my cold, dead hands" crowd really what Jefferson, Madison, and Mason had in mind when they were crafting the Bill of Rights?

I'm not going to wade into the gun rights issue. I've been on both sides of it.

I'm a responsible firearms owner. I don't know of many people who live in my area that don't own a firearm.

On my old job, I carried a weapon for seven years and confiscated my share of guns from idiots who should have never had them in the first place.

Citizens can engage in principled, civilized debates about the gun issue, but I don't think anachronistic cowboy bullies who don't understand that true freedom has nothing to do with firepower have much to contribute.

Statements and attitudes like this is what got us bombed at Pearl Harbor and the World Trade Center's.

 

[Caustic Burno]

On a lighter note, I decided to exercise my Right to bear arms today.

Bought me a new gun today. Bought a Marlin Model 410 Lever action 410 gauge shot gun. I been wanting one of the Winchester 9410's but could never find one, and this Marlin fell into my lap today. Not a big Marlin fan, but I am sure it will be nice shotgun to have around for snakes and will fit nice in a Scabbard when riding the Mules and Horse.

Also looked at some Henry 22 rifles for my kids. Been thinking of steeping them up from their single shot ones. Any opinions out there about Henry Rifles. I did like they were American made. But are they cheap junk?

I bought a Henry lever in 22 mag just haven't found anyone I dislike enough to give it to.

 

[Wewild]

Caustic Burno:

Aplus all I can say to these liberal socialist that you have been debating with is I am willing to shoot them when they come and try and take my guns. The question is are they willing to get shot?

Statements like this make me realize how much better this country would be if women were represented in our government proportionally to their population. We'd have a whole lot more common sense and a whole lot less strutting.

I mean, really, can any of you picture a woman spouting off with this type of chest-pounding, violent stupidity.

Is the "pry it from my cold, dead hands" crowd really what Jefferson, Madison, and Mason had in mind when they were crafting the Bill of Rights?

I'm not going to wade into the gun rights issue. I've been on both sides of it.

I'm a responsible firearms owner. I don't know of many people who live in my area that don't own a firearm.

On my old job, I carried a weapon for seven years and confiscated my share of guns from idiots who should have never had them in the first place.

Citizens can engage in principled, civilized debates about the gun issue, but I don't think anachronistic cowboy bullies who don't understand that true freedom has nothing to do with firepower have much to contribute.

Statements and attitudes like this is what got us bombed at Pearl Harbor and the World Trade Center's.

I like that too CB.

 

[dun]

Also looked at some Henry 22 rifles for my kids. Been thinking of steeping them up from their single shot ones. Any opinions out there about Henry Rifles. I did like they were American made. But are they cheap junk?

Unless their quality has made huge strides in the past few years, you almost get what you pay for.

dun

 

[aplusmnt]

Dun & Caustic thanks for the Henry info. I will pass on them.

Any opinions on Marlin 22's and rifles in general.

 

[Caustic Burno]

Dun & Caustic thanks for the Henry info. I will pass on them.

Any opinions on Marlin 22's and rifles in general.

I like Marlins have several in the armory.

Get ready to drop some bucks.

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/ ... en39A.aspx

 

[aplusmnt]

Took a couple guns to get fixed today to a local gunsmith that makes custom rifles.

He told me that Browning bought the rights to Winchesters 94 series Rifles. Bet them will be expensive when they hit the shelves.

 

[MikeC]

Took a couple guns to get fixed today to a local gunsmith that makes custom rifles.

He told me that Browning bought the rights to Winchesters 94 series Rifles. Bet them will be expensive when they hit the shelves.

Not just the Model 94. Browning is making all the Winchester guns: Been making some for years:

East Alton, IL, August 15, 2006 – Winchester announced today that it has entered into a long-term license agreement with Browning for the manufacture and distribution of Winchester brand rifles and shotguns.

"With this new agreement, Winchester is confident that Browning will produce innovative firearms worthy of the Winchester name, continuing a tradition that people around the world associate with the Winchester brand," stated Richard Hammett, President of Winchester Ammunition. "We are proud of our heritage as 'The Gun That Won the West' and consider this arrangement as entering a new era for the legendary Winchester firearms brand."
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Charles Guevremont, President of Browning, is equally optimistic and excited about the opportunity to continue the production and distribution of Winchester firearms. "We are more committed today than ever before to the development of exciting new Winchester firearms designs," said Guevremont. "We will continually strive to build the quality products that generations of loyal Winchester customers have come to expect and will be proud to own and use for decades to come."

Winchester is a division of Olin Corporation. Olin Corporation is a manufacturer concentrated in three business segments: Metals, Chlor Alkali Products, and Winchester. Winchester products include sporting ammunition, reloading components, small caliber military ammunition, and industrial cartridges.
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[Wewild]

might wish you had one of those so called assault rifles instead. ;-)

I got several. Some with the evil features that were once banned.

How many people know that the evil baynot lug on a AR 15 is not in the right location to accept the bayonet correctly because the legal civilian barrel has to be 16" instead of the 14.1 military issue.

I like my AK and my Macs.

 

[Triple D]

Speaking of guns. Anybody know who may manufacture a 22 mag auto loader? I havn't looked hard, but havn't noticed any at the normal places. Something kinda durable like with a composite stock and mate finish. Something you can just kinda through on the truck dash or in the tractor. I'd like to have one.

 

[Caustic Burno]

Took a couple guns to get fixed today to a local gunsmith that makes custom rifles.

He told me that Browning bought the rights to Winchesters 94 series Rifles. Bet them will be expensive when they hit the shelves.

Not just the Model 94. Browning is making all the Winchester guns: Been making some for years:

East Alton, IL, August 15, 2006 – Winchester announced today that it has entered into a long-term license agreement with Browning for the manufacture and distribution of Winchester brand rifles and shotguns.

"With this new agreement, Winchester is confident that Browning will produce innovative firearms worthy of the Winchester name, continuing a tradition that people around the world associate with the Winchester brand," stated Richard Hammett, President of Winchester Ammunition. "We are proud of our heritage as 'The Gun That Won the West' and consider this arrangement as entering a new era for the legendary Winchester firearms brand."
Story continues below


Charles Guevremont, President of Browning, is equally optimistic and excited about the opportunity to continue the production and distribution of Winchester firearms. "We are more committed today than ever before to the development of exciting new Winchester firearms designs," said Guevremont. "We will continually strive to build the quality products that generations of loyal Winchester customers have come to expect and will be proud to own and use for decades to come."

Winchester is a division of Olin Corporation. Olin Corporation is a manufacturer concentrated in three business segments: Metals, Chlor Alkali Products, and Winchester. Winchester products include sporting ammunition, reloading components, small caliber military ammunition, and industrial cartridges.
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Don't care for the new Winchester's love the model 12's 25's 21's and 97's The only one I don't have is the Model 11 known as a mankiller . These guns were each hand made with high chrome steel.

 

[Caustic Burno]

Speaking of guns. Anybody know who may manufacture a 22 mag auto loader? I havn't looked hard, but havn't noticed any at the normal places. Something kinda durable like with a composite stock and mate finish. Something you can just kinda through on the truck dash or in the tractor. I'd like to have one.

In Rifle Ruger and Remington.

 

[Triple D]

Thanx Burno, I found it today, gotta order though. No problem, not like I gotta have it tomorrow. Remington model 597, pretty much just what I was looking for. Never did find the Ruger though, which is ok by me. Never did care much for their trigger pull, always seemed a little rough. Thanx again.

 

[Jogeephus]

This weapon has done a lot of good, saved a lot of lives and is even environmentally friendly. :lol:

What more do you want, a banana with a zipper on it? :lol:

 

[Caustic Burno]

Took a couple guns to get fixed today to a local gunsmith that makes custom rifles.

He told me that Browning bought the rights to Winchesters 94 series Rifles. Bet them will be expensive when they hit the shelves.

Not just the Model 94. Browning is making all the Winchester guns: Been making some for years:

East Alton, IL, August 15, 2006 – Winchester announced today that it has entered into a long-term license agreement with Browning for the manufacture and distribution of Winchester brand rifles and shotguns.

"With this new agreement, Winchester is confident that Browning will produce innovative firearms worthy of the Winchester name, continuing a tradition that people around the world associate with the Winchester brand," stated Richard Hammett, President of Winchester Ammunition. "We are proud of our heritage as 'The Gun That Won the West' and consider this arrangement as entering a new era for the legendary Winchester firearms brand."
Story continues below


Charles Guevremont, President of Browning, is equally optimistic and excited about the opportunity to continue the production and distribution of Winchester firearms. "We are more committed today than ever before to the development of exciting new Winchester firearms designs," said Guevremont. "We will continually strive to build the quality products that generations of loyal Winchester customers have come to expect and will be proud to own and use for decades to come."

Winchester is a division of Olin Corporation. Olin Corporation is a manufacturer concentrated in three business segments: Metals, Chlor Alkali Products, and Winchester. Winchester products include sporting ammunition, reloading components, small caliber military ammunition, and industrial cartridges.
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Model 97, 11, 12 were all Browning designs which Winchester bought the production rights to.

The Model 12 was the next step from the Winchester Model 1897 hammer-fired shotgun, which in turn had evolved from the earlier Winchester Model 1893 shotgun. All of these guns were largely based on designs by John Browning. The Model 12 was the first truly successful modern hammerless pump-action shotgun ever produced. Its tubular magazine was loaded, and the action was fed, through the bottom of the gun. Empty shotgun shells ejected to the right. Depending on the particular wooden transformer plug installed in the magazine, 2, 3, or 4 shells could be stored in the tubular magazine. With its forged and polished steel parts, the ultimate reason for the end of its regular production in 1963 was that it had become too expensive to produce at a competitive price. The primary competition at this time came from the much less expensive Remington Model 870, which had been introduced in 1950. In addition to price competition issues, the Winchester Model 12 rarely had parts break or wear out, often serving multiple subsequent owners, which further served to limit repeat sales. The Model 12 was chambered for 2¾-inch shotgun shells, only.

 

[dun]

The catch with the Browning manufacture of 94s and a couple of others is that there is a labor contract in place that specifies they can only be manufacured in the "Winchester" plant here. I don;t recall for how long but seems it was threough 2007 or 2008. That's why there are negotiations going on now to reopen the plant under a new buyer.

dun

 

[aplusmnt]

Are they still going to market them under Winchester Name? Or will they carry the Browning name?