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Son of Butch said:
How old is he? Risk factors?
On the plus side....
Incubated survival rates have increased from 58% in April to 77% in October.
So chin up, the odds are still in his favor.
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He's 67 My sister is almost sure he's a diabetic I'm 39, last time we saw each other was 6 years ago. His sister also had covid she's also in L.A, I was told she was in the hospital for 3 days. My dads taking it the worst even though it's his nephew to him he's like a brother. he's sad by it they grew up together until my dad turned 22 and moved out, they always remained best of friends Im sad as well.. but we are hoping he will make it through this. My dad did and he's older. Stay safe..here in NYC it's getting worse again.
 
As to the pro life, pro gun, pro corporate tax cuts all in one package that covers about 90% of the people I know and all the people I like.

The destruction of political parties might be the one thing that would save this country.
 
simme said:
Mr. George had a way with words, didn't he. I think I need another translation. That one reads like the KJV. Best I can tell, looks like he was against political parties. If there were two parties at the time, what are the chances they would have ever agreed on the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution? But, the parties started forming soon after.
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Basically what he was saying was that revenge and hatred would emerge and consume the process rather than what is best for the good of all as determined by a democratic vote and then mutual cooperation. There were two political parties when he made that speech. The founding fathers did not like it, but many, such as Thomas Jefferson, saw it as a necessary evil to have political parties, they wrote about it extensively.
 
Caustic Burno said:
Lost my oldest brother in 43 to a simple infection as a child. Penicillin wasn't available to the public until 45. Lots of these little country cemeteries around here are full of kids up through the 1940's.
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Do you not wish that we had the medicine back then that we do now, such as vaccines?
I am sorry about your loss. I have experienced too many losses for there later to be a vaccine or cure, i.e. polio.
My 80-year-old mother still talks about losing her best friend as a child at 5 to Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever.
 
sstterry said:
Basically what he was saying was that revenge and hatred would emerge and consume the process rather than what is best for the good of all as determined by a democratic vote and then mutual cooperation. There were two political parties when he made that speech. The founding fathers did not like it, but many, such as Thomas Jefferson, saw it as a necessary evil to have political parties, they wrote about it extensively.
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George was certainly correct. A man ahead of his time for sure. We have proven him correct - very much so in the last 30 years or so especially. Each side blames the other when both are very guilty. I remember something about being able to see the speck in someone's eye and not being able to see the beam in your own eye. So very true even after 2000 years.
 
Buck Randall said:
Well, it's literally impossible to get your news from someone who isn't media, unless you've got a direct line to the White House. Media isn't just the big networks and papers anymore.
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I don't need anyone to tell me the state of my environment.
Buck Randall said:
The earth is flat. I looked out my window and saw it for myself.
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LoL
Obama didn't f$_# up my health care....they told me so on the news
 
So I had to go to the city yesterday....
We had to go get some supplies and made the mistake of being hungry. We arrived at a restaurant and while waiting to be seated, we noticed that the 3 busy employees were the only ones wearing masks. NOT ONE person sittting and enjoying thier meals or the group of 8-10 construction workers in the bar area that were there for a while, obviously intoxicated. Anyway.... so its our turn to be seated and were asked to put our masks on to walk the 10ft to our table. So me being me, stated that the request was a little silly. As she stopped picking up the menus from the host stand, she said that we were not welcome in the establishment.

Now, I wasnt comenting on the status of the virus.... I made the comment due to the fact that walking 10ft from the door, to a place that had been surrounded by 50-60 people in a room without masks enjoying lunch without fear, is silly!
We left and found food elsewhere, but this just shows that unwritten laws are now being made and enforced. If you believe this isn't about control, your fooling yourself!
How far will this go....There is a time in our near future that if you don't have -insert certification here- you will be told you cant buy here, buy this, go here or there..... then what?
 
i didn't know TN had a statewide mask mandate. i was in byrdstown recently at a restaurant and they weren't requiring masks.
 
4hfarms said:
So I had to go to the city yesterday....
We had to go get some supplies and made the mistake of being hungry. We arrived at a restaurant and while waiting to be seated, we noticed that the 3 busy employees were the only ones wearing masks. NOT ONE person sittting and enjoying thier meals or the group of 8-10 construction workers in the bar area that were there for a while, obviously intoxicated. Anyway.... so its our turn to be seated and were asked to put our masks on to walk the 10ft to our table. So me being me, stated that the request was a little silly. As she stopped picking up the menus from the host stand, she said that we were not welcome in the establishment.

Now, I wasnt comenting on the status of the virus.... I made the comment due to the fact that walking 10ft from the door, to a place that had been surrounded by 50-60 people in a room without masks enjoying lunch without fear, is silly!
We left and found food elsewhere, but this just shows that unwritten laws are now being made and enforced. If you believe this isn't about control, your fooling yourself!
How far will this go....There is a time in our near future that if you don't have -insert certification here- you will be told you cant buy here, buy this, go here or there..... then what?
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Your post caused me to have these thoughts. We see on TV that when you give testimony in court, you are asked to tell the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing BUT the truth. In reality, they quite often do NOT want the whole truth. I hear statements like "Covid is nothing. I had it and and felt fine. Nothing to be feared". And "Covid will kill you". Now both those statements are often true. But neither is the WHOLE truth. We seem to have lost the ability of rational thinking and reasoning. We listen to what someone says, pick our side and stick with it. What happened to our ability for critical thinking? My wife was referred to a specialist doctor a few months ago. He works from a building that is a cancer treatment center, part of a fairly large regional hospital system. I went with her and had been told that I could attend the consultation. The entry to the building was automatic sliding double glass doors to a SMALL foyer like area (really an air lock area) It was about 8 feet deep and 12 feet wide. Then a second set of automatic sliding doors to enter the large reception area/waiting area. We had out temps checked and I was told that I had wait in the foyer until the wife was called back to the room due to covid protocols. I did that along with one other person already there. A small foyer. Everyone who entered or left the building had to pass through that small foyer with two people within arm's reach of them. Most undergoing cancer treatments it appears. They are all passing close to me. I am there due to covid SAFETY protocols. My wife is sitting inside a very large L shaped waiting area that is mostly empty with NO ONE sitting in one wing of the L. Probably 60 seats with less than 10 people. It would have been FAR safer for everyone if I had been in the larger area at a greater distance from others instead of within a few feet of EVERYONE who entered or exited the building for 20 minutes. And I assume this is the result of some person who developed the covid protocols for all the facilities within that hospital system. What were they THINKING? Wait, I am pretty sure there was not much thinking involved. The enforcers of the protocol there should have been able to see that those rules were not correct or safe for that layout and should have pushed back on those rules. Instead, they appear to have blindly accepted the rules and were just "doing their job".
Sometimes you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see that some of this has no thought behind it.
"It is no worse than a cold or flu". "It will kill you". Both are truths. Just not the whole truth.
 
simme said:
Your post caused me to have these thoughts. We see on TV that when you give testimony in court, you are asked to tell the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing BUT the truth. In reality, they quite often do NOT want the whole truth. I hear statements like "Covid is nothing. I had it and and felt fine. Nothing to be feared". And "Covid will kill you". Now both those statements are often true. But neither is the WHOLE truth. We seem to have lost the ability of rational thinking and reasoning. We listen to what someone says, pick our side and stick with it. What happened to our ability for critical thinking? My wife was referred to a specialist doctor a few months ago. He works from a building that is a cancer treatment center, part of a fairly large regional hospital system. I went with her and had been told that I could attend the consultation. The entry to the building was automatic sliding double glass doors to a SMALL foyer like area (really an air lock area) It was about 8 feet deep and 12 feet wide. Then a second set of automatic sliding doors to enter the large reception area/waiting area. We had out temps checked and I was told that I had wait in the foyer until the wife was called back to the room due to covid protocols. I did that along with one other person already there. A small foyer. Everyone who entered or left the building had to pass through that small foyer with two people within arm's reach of them. Most undergoing cancer treatments it appears. They are all passing close to me. I am there due to covid SAFETY protocols. My wife is sitting inside a very large L shaped waiting area that is mostly empty with NO ONE sitting in one wing of the L. Probably 60 seats with less than 10 people. It would have been FAR safer for everyone if I had been in the larger area at a greater distance from others instead of within a few feet of EVERYONE who entered or exited the building for 20 minutes. And I assume this is the result of some person who developed the covid protocols for all the facilities within that hospital system. What were they THINKING? Wait, I am pretty sure there was not much thinking involved. The enforcers of the protocol there should have been able to see that those rules were not correct or safe for that layout and should have pushed back on those rules. Instead, they appear to have blindly accepted the rules and were just "doing their job".
Sometimes you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see that some of this has no thought behind it.
"It is no worse than a cold or flu". "It will kill you". Both are truths. Just not the whole truth.
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If your immune system is healthy it's not worse than the flu. Wife had it last January wasn't bad, sister got the flu in 2018 and it killed her Black Flag dead along with 11K other Texans. For those that don't think the flu is deadly.


www.texmed.org

Last Flu Season Was Even Worse Than We Thought

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simme said:
Your post caused me to have these thoughts. We see on TV that when you give testimony in court, you are asked to tell the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing BUT the truth. In reality, they quite often do NOT want the whole truth. I hear statements like "Covid is nothing. I had it and and felt fine. Nothing to be feared". And "Covid will kill you". Now both those statements are often true. But neither is the WHOLE truth. We seem to have lost the ability of rational thinking and reasoning. We listen to what someone says, pick our side and stick with it. What happened to our ability for critical thinking? My wife was referred to a specialist doctor a few months ago. He works from a building that is a cancer treatment center, part of a fairly large regional hospital system. I went with her and had been told that I could attend the consultation. The entry to the building was automatic sliding double glass doors to a SMALL foyer like area (really an air lock area) It was about 8 feet deep and 12 feet wide. Then a second set of automatic sliding doors to enter the large reception area/waiting area. We had out temps checked and I was told that I had wait in the foyer until the wife was called back to the room due to covid protocols. I did that along with one other person already there. A small foyer. Everyone who entered or left the building had to pass through that small foyer with two people within arm's reach of them. Most undergoing cancer treatments it appears. They are all passing close to me. I am there due to covid SAFETY protocols. My wife is sitting inside a very large L shaped waiting area that is mostly empty with NO ONE sitting in one wing of the L. Probably 60 seats with less than 10 people. It would have been FAR safer for everyone if I had been in the larger area at a greater distance from others instead of within a few feet of EVERYONE who entered or exited the building for 20 minutes. And I assume this is the result of some person who developed the covid protocols for all the facilities within that hospital system. What were they THINKING? Wait, I am pretty sure there was not much thinking involved. The enforcers of the protocol there should have been able to see that those rules were not correct or safe for that layout and should have pushed back on those rules. Instead, they appear to have blindly accepted the rules and were just "doing their job".
Sometimes you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see that some of this has no thought behind it.
"It is no worse than a cold or flu". "It will kill you". Both are truths. Just not the whole truth.
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Just because you don't believe, doesn't mean it didn't happen.....
 
4hfarms said:
Just because you don't believe, doesn't mean it didn't happen.....
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Wait! I don't think I said anything to indicate that I doubted anything about your story. My point is that people form opinions and decide on rules based on only portions of the truth. My thoughts came up due your point that some of the rules don't make sense. My apologies if you interpreted my comments any other way. I mean no harm to anyone - ever.
 

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