Red Bull Breeder
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Maybe you need to up your offer a little bit.
Show me where I've bad mouthed Schaff?Richnm said:Reg #????. Why do you always negative input and then leave the forums? Also why do you bad mouth Schaff at every opportunity? Post his Reg # $50k if he is as good as you say. I will pay trucking. My money is good.NEFarmwife said:When you start AIing more than 50 cows, let's talk.************* said:Saving money on semen? Are you kidding me? It's pocket change in the big picture. Definition of a piker.
I would choose a Schaff bull any day of the week over "home cookin"
Charles Herbster has the dream team as far as I'm concerned. I will stick with him versus bargain bulls.
You aren't playing the long game picking up pennies.
I'm sure a Hyundai will get you from point A to B, but I prefer a Rolls over a Hyundai.
We A.I. over 500 cows every year. Most are commercial. Most operations wouldn't even tackle that. Show me one that does?
We've had this convo before.
Red Bull Breeder said:Thinking back I have had some bulls I sure wish I had a few straws of semen on. Just not all that expensive to collect a few straws on a bull.
Red Bull Breeder said:10 years from now you can still go back and use him again All depends on the bull and what he can do for you. 100 straws if the bull jumps good will cost about 600.00. If nothing else its pretty cheap insurance if something goes wrong with the bull.
NEFarmwife said:Red Bull Breeder said:10 years from now you can still go back and use him again All depends on the bull and what he can do for you. 100 straws if the bull jumps good will cost about 600.00. If nothing else its pretty cheap insurance if something goes wrong with the bull.
Yep. So I feel that if the original poster wants to collect on his bull, even if for just a jump or two, there isn't any harm in that and it's more cost effective.
Absolutely. I cannot take credit for this bull. He was bought as one of many pairs we purchased out of the Sand Point dispersal last spring. We raised him from about 2 weeks old though and knew he'd be something. We just didn't expect such exceptional EPDs.CreekAngus said:NEFarmwife said:Red Bull Breeder said:10 years from now you can still go back and use him again All depends on the bull and what he can do for you. 100 straws if the bull jumps good will cost about 600.00. If nothing else its pretty cheap insurance if something goes wrong with the bull.
Yep. So I feel that if the original poster wants to collect on his bull, even if for just a jump or two, there isn't any harm in that and it's more cost effective.
I think with what your doing and some the genetics you have in your herds......Heck Yeah, I would do some collecting. I had this talk the other day with my teenage daughter. We were discussing a commercial heifer we have and how good she looks, blah, blah. I asked her out of all the cattle she has seen, she's seen good ones, out of what herd would she want a cow from. Her response was the neighbor down the road where she got her show heifer, ironic that is the same farm that we used their herd bull (out of their progeny) to cover a heifer we couldn't get stuck. We often do give too much credit to the promotion and commotion, this farm, that farm, when animals that will improve our herd are already on the farm or just down the road.
NEFarmwife said:Absolutely. I cannot take credit for this bull. He was bought as one of many pairs we purchased out of the Sand Point dispersal last spring. We raised him from about 2 weeks old though and knew he'd be something. We just didn't expect such exceptional EPDs.CreekAngus said:NEFarmwife said:Yep. So I feel that if the original poster wants to collect on his bull, even if for just a jump or two, there isn't any harm in that and it's more cost effective.
I think with what your doing and some the genetics you have in your herds......Heck Yeah, I would do some collecting. I had this talk the other day with my teenage daughter. We were discussing a commercial heifer we have and how good she looks, blah, blah. I asked her out of all the cattle she has seen, she's seen good ones, out of what herd would she want a cow from. Her response was the neighbor down the road where she got her show heifer, ironic that is the same farm that we used their herd bull (out of their progeny) to cover a heifer we couldn't get stuck. We often do give too much credit to the promotion and commotion, this farm, that farm, when animals that will improve our herd are already on the farm or just down the road.
It's interesting though, ones take on not collecting on a "homegrown bull" when you have the likes of Schaff. So, my question would be... if you won't use your own critter from a straw of Schaff semen, to breed your cows... why are you in the business? What I take from BH is he isn't confident enough in any of his matings or what he has on his farm... worthy of bringing into ones herd?
True Grit Farms said:Alright now I'm as confused as Cooter Brown. I was under the impression America was the best and greatest Angus sire?
Richnm said:Offer still stands. Let me see his feet and epds and calves.