NEFarmwife said:
CreekAngus said:
I think with what your doing and some the genetics you have in your herds......Heck Yeah, I would do some collecting. I had this talk the other day with my teenage daughter. We were discussing a commercial heifer we have and how good she looks, blah, blah. I asked her out of all the cattle she has seen, she's seen good ones, out of what herd would she want a cow from. Her response was the neighbor down the road where she got her show heifer, ironic that is the same farm that we used their herd bull (out of their progeny) to cover a heifer we couldn't get stuck. We often do give too much credit to the promotion and commotion, this farm, that farm, when animals that will improve our herd are already on the farm or just down the road.
Absolutely. I cannot take credit for this bull. He was bought as one of many pairs we purchased out of the Sand Point dispersal last spring. We raised him from about 2 weeks old though and knew he'd be something. We just didn't expect such exceptional EPDs.
It's interesting though, ones take on not collecting on a "homegrown bull" when you have the likes of Schaff. So, my question would be... if you won't use your own critter from a straw of Schaff semen, to breed your cows... why are you in the business? What I take from BH is he isn't confident enough in any of his matings or what he has on his farm... worthy of bringing into ones herd?
I'm not overly focused on creating bulls, there are people that do that WAY better than me, and as hard as it may be to swallow, better than you.
My focus is on females, that is the name of the game. I would never use your bull because, unlike you that makes every comment personal, I simply would want a better female in the pedigree, which I obtain with President or Raindance or Colonel, or Elation, or Supercharger and the list goes on.
My bulls will greatly improve 95% of the commercial herds in this area, if not all of them, and probably 90% nationwide. I have two Internationals and a President that will get used in time, but only if I cannot get around to AI'ng everyone. However that sure doesn't mean they are a President.
Creek wanted to know why I preferred SAV President, it's simple, he's the best. Period!
You can tell everyone how pleasantly surprised you were that your bull has great EPD's and such, but until there are serious bidders dropping deep into the six figures on him or his sons, you are in la la land.
The absolute lowest end bull in my tank is vastly better than your best home cooking, AND you didn't even breed the bull you are bragging about. Anyone can feed a bull, just look at Unmistakable, he's proof.
When my President sons hit 15 months, we will compare photos and videos. Maybe you can even show your bull pics of my Presidents and say "maybe one day you will look this good"
