Very very little,if any,I am sure as the plant absorbs most of the "nutrients" when it grows.Wewild":362wmdy1 said:How much chicken sh$t does the average cow ingest when their pastures are fertilized with same?????
Mahoney Pursley Ranch":k1y8n3au said:Very very little,if any,I am sure as the plant absorbs most of the "nutrients" when it grows.Wewild":k1y8n3au said:How much chicken sh$t does the average cow ingest when their pastures are fertilized with same?????
==============Bez":3eqih2ze said:la4angus
Lighten up, hell.
Just because others do it doesn't mean that you need to.
Bez has already given you reasons not to use chicken schit in your feed so there is no point in me re-elaborating on it.
Tapeworm
Thats the way to tell him La4...sometimes you have to be blunt...then sometimes theres slow learners to.LOL This was my favorite part of his posting
"The protein tubs sound like the way to go but don't cows need more than hay and grass when they are on that stuff. Roughage like palm leaves and tree leaves...etc."
Wants to feed leaves and be nice instead of grass??? Say what??? I think he just wants to buy some feed instead of trying to make money. Course anybody that runs straight longhorns...well....to put it nice its more of a game than a business anyhow
MPR
Some people are set in the ways they do things and preachin aint gonna change them. Hell if his fellow cattlemen are doin it it must be good
Well, I agree with all of you. BUT .....
When we run down a guy (I have been guilty myself at times) for doing some of these things and I then sit back for a second sober thought - I always come back to this thought.
In my opinion these folks do what they do because there have been some serious mistakes made in the education of folks who raise cattle.
It has been done this way for many years and that in itself is the problem. The chances of people changing their ways is slim. Why?
I believe it is because they are doing what Gramps did. If it worked for him, it should work for me.
Other than the various legislations - which will come - what can be done to change the attitudes and the methods of feeding?
We can always drive a guy away from this forum, but can we change how he operates?
Thoughts?
Bez
Bez":3k8itner said:Do not know - do not use it.
We do use it on corn and soy beans - disc it in.
Do not want it on my pastures. Good stuff, but I am wary of it.
You have an answer to the question?
Bez
Bez":t3w4qq6h said:.
We can always drive a guy away from this forum, but can we change how he operates?
Bez
frenchie":2c8rze79 said:Bez":2c8rze79 said:.
We can always drive a guy away from this forum, but can we change how he operates?
Bez
No but we can make him think about how he operates.
Bez,Bez":18mpzmr9 said:there is spilled feed containing supplements that are ok for chickens, but bad for cows. Bez
What does that mean?tbase2000":1g4cf2y0 said:If everyone is so against it...then I can flow....
Yes it is. Or at least it should be, assuming you don't have enough grass.tbase2000":1g4cf2y0 said:Hay is not enough.
Agreed, but that is our opinion. Longhorns do not need sweetfeed. Do some some research on the great American Longhorn, or the Florida Cracker for that matter. They are super effecient survivors that do not get "fat and sassy", but thrive on grass/hay forage.tbase2000":1g4cf2y0 said:Sweet feed is overpriced.
Have you read this thread? Quit considering feeding chicken feces to your cattle. Reduce your herd numbers or get access to more grass/hay. "A smart cattleman always has more grass than he has cattle".tbase2000":1g4cf2y0 said:ADVICE?
Remember - don't feed chicken crap to your cows.tbase2000":1g4cf2y0 said:remember because its a 50/50 mix.
Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, Lyle Alzedo all saw "results" from their "program", but it doesn't mean that it was right.tbase2000":1g4cf2y0 said:Just a note...ranchers wouldn't have been feeding their cattle this chicken byproduct if they hadn't ever seen results from it.
Don't feed chicken crap to your cows.tbase2000":1g4cf2y0 said:Your a great resource.
Good. Don't feed your cows chicken crap.tbase2000":1g4cf2y0 said:By the way...nothing ever taken personal here.
tbase2000":1lw77jr5 said:Oh my over dramatize the situation.
Sorry if your a feed producer who is intimidated by a cheaper product.
And sorry if your a mass beef herder who is worried about his sales to Canada.
I am a small time rancher with 50 head of longhorns...who unlike some previous posts...doesn't like them to look thin. Hello...skinny cows are not asthetic to look at...whatever about the blood line...nobody is registered anyway. So my cows are in my best interest...unlike maybe some others who have posted here. Hay is not enough. Protein blocks make them eat forage from the woods...leaves palmedos...etc to whoever posted about that comment. When its winter and there is nothing to eat in the woods..why give the tubs of protein that make them eat what they cannot get. I have read so many post about "don't do it because its wrong". Maybe someone can throw me a bone and tell me what they would feed in Florida besides sweet feed to fatten up their cows. All can really go to >>> because as far as I know nothing is illegal about the manure feed. Does anyone even know if there are benifits to manure as feed our are you going on paranoid heresay. Dont slam me without some facts.
Thanks
tbase2000":299ix26t said:Oh my over dramatize the situation.
Sorry if your a feed producer who is intimidated by a cheaper product.
And sorry if your a mass beef herder who is worried about his sales to Canada.
I am a small time rancher with 50 head of longhorns...who unlike some previous posts...doesn't like them to look thin. Hello...skinny cows are not asthetic to look at...whatever about the blood line...nobody is registered anyway. So my cows are in my best interest...unlike maybe some others who have posted here. Hay is not enough. Protein blocks make them eat forage from the woods...leaves palmedos...etc to whoever posted about that comment. When its winter and there is nothing to eat in the woods..why give the tubs of protein that make them eat what they cannot get. I have read so many post about "don't do it because its wrong". Maybe someone can throw me a bone and tell me what they would feed in Florida besides sweet feed to fatten up their cows. All can really go to >>> because as far as I know nothing is illegal about the manure feed. Does anyone even know if there are benifits to manure as feed our are you going on paranoid heresay. Dont slam me without some facts.
Thanks