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cowdog,cowdog,cowdog, maybe you sould call someone with a good cowdog.
jbar":20oxwoit said:cowdog,cowdog,cowdog, maybe you sould call someone with a good cowdog.
dun":2aausgfw said:Something that I've alwasy gotten a chuckle out of is that anything negative about any breed is bashing but the positive stuff is just supporting the breed. We all have different ecperiences and that's all we can go by, not by what the nighbors uncles breothers neighbor has experienced. The few lims that I've worked with were nuts, some of them as little as last year, charolais, as recent as 2 years ago had too much calving problems for my taste. Braunviehs have been poor mothers and hard calvers, Gerts and Brahmans if worked calmly have been a real pleasure to deal with. The list goes on. The point is, those have been my experiences, that's all I can base judgement on. There are breeds that I would own, some I wouldn;t touch with a long stick.
dun":3uotqjn8 said:Something that I've alwasy gotten a chuckle out of is that anything negative about any breed is bashing but the positive stuff is just supporting the breed. We all have different ecperiences and that's all we can go by, not by what the nighbors uncles breothers neighbor has experienced. The few lims that I've worked with were nuts, some of them as little as last year, charolais, as recent as 2 years ago had too much calving problems for my taste. Braunviehs have been poor mothers and hard calvers, Gerts and Brahmans if worked calmly have been a real pleasure to deal with. The list goes on. The point is, those have been my experiences, that's all I can base judgement on. There are breeds that I would own, some I wouldn;t touch with a long stick.
there is more difference within a breed than between breeds
heard it said alot.. seem like it's quotedBeef11":1z2p7afq said:there is more difference within a breed than between breeds
I can't figure out how this statement can be true.
ive seen it react different on certain one's i think it is a combination of things, wrong weight guess,or just the chemistry of the animal itself .seen some that take more than one shot to bring down and some that you think should take more go out like a light.jpierce512":speqpfp6 said:I would not recomend using the tranqulizer gun. I'm sure people have had some good luck, but myself on the advice of someone used one once on a "wild" heifer and it killed her were she laid.
I double checked and the dose was correct, I never did find out why she died. But I will never use one again I would rather use dogs or hire a cowboy.
ALACOWMAN":32bg4spn said:ive seen it react different on certain one's i think it is a combination of things, wrong weight guess,or just the chemistry of the animal itself .seen some that take more than one shot to bring down and some that you think should take more go out like a light.jpierce512":32bg4spn said:I would not recomend using the tranqulizer gun. I'm sure people have had some good luck, but myself on the advice of someone used one once on a "wild" heifer and it killed her were she laid.
I double checked and the dose was correct, I never did find out why she died. But I will never use one again I would rather use dogs or hire a cowboy.
there is more difference within a breed than between breeds
ive also heard... there is more>> variation <<within a breed than between which i think probably more accurateBeef11":158woit0 said:there is more difference within a breed than between breeds
So consistent calves are more likely to come from mongrels?
If you breed two purebred angus you are likely to end up with a hereford looking calf?
The fact that a breed is made up of animals with a similar set of genes resulting in a less similar calf?
Linebreeding, crossbreeding, inbreeding and outcrossing result in what?
My wives tale sirens started blaring when i read that quote. I would love a shred of scientific evidence on this.
Wild Cattle":q1gqav9s said:Thus the falicy of sugesting a "breed" is the best or better for some reason.
dun":35sxp9ch said:Something that I've alwasy gotten a chuckle out of is that anything negative about any breed is bashing but the positive stuff is just supporting the breed. We all have different ecperiences and that's all we can go by, not by what the nighbors uncles breothers neighbor has experienced. The few lims that I've worked with were nuts, some of them as little as last year, charolais, as recent as 2 years ago had too much calving problems for my taste. Braunviehs have been poor mothers and hard calvers, Gerts and Brahmans if worked calmly have been a real pleasure to deal with. The list goes on. The point is, those have been my experiences, that's all I can base judgement on. There are breeds that I would own, some I wouldn;t touch with a long stick.
Wild Cattle":34a7yiqd said:I have seen the question asked on these boards...What is the best breed to use on my cows? And the answers come breed x,y,and z. I believe the answer should be a type of bull not a breed, because I have seen, for example, Angus bulls that were as good as I have ever seen and as bad as I have ever seen, so the breed its self is not the answer. Just my thoughts....