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Not considering the current BSE situation in Canada. Why are American Angus breeders not using more Canadian outcross genetics? This is directed to both Red & Black breeders!!
 

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DZ":28we6fzl said:
Not considering the current BSE situation in Canada. Why are American Angus breeders not using more Canadian outcross genetics? This is directed to both Red & Black breeders!!
For the simple reason that no one is doing hardly any promotion on the Canadian genetics. If the breeders forgets about you, you suffer.
Canadian Genetics in both Black and Red Angus are hard to beat.
By the same token I have an interest in a Black Angus bull that we have shipped 5000 straws from into Canada, with the first calves hitiing the ground this year.
 

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I haven't seen any in any of the catalogs...

Is Canada exporting any semen? Also have no familiarity with any of the bulls or cows so that needs to be done. Canadian Angus Association needs to do a bit of advertising I would think.

If it were easily available semen and enough data on the calves I would be interested. I'm going to check the American Angus website....might be a problem of registering the calves.
 
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My feelings are that semen catalogues like ABS are not the Bible. Bulls that sell for $100,000.00 are not always what they are cracked up to be. Just that they have all the promotion done for them with that kind of price tag. As breeders we should constantly be looking for something different then what everyone else is using as long as you believe in your program. Because in the long run the genetic base is getting smaller by everyone using the same sires and outcrosses will be of value. To Heiferhoney registering a Canadian bull should be no different than what we have to do with American bulls. All that is a DNA test and then they are given an import prefix/tattoo that they are registered under.

So I invite you to come and see what we have to offer by attending Canadian Western Agribition this November. Listed below are some websites to explore.

http://redangus.ca/angus-links.htm
http://www.angusmarket.com/cgi-bin/sear ... tegoryID=2
http://www.angusmarket.com/cgi-bin/sear ... tegoryID=1
http://www.browarny.com/
http://www.thecattle.net/clients.html
http://www.cattlemanagement.ca/catalogues.htm
http://www.davis-rairdan.com/
http://www.independentbreeders.com/ibsh ... /index.htm
http://www.brylor.com/
http://www.hendersoncattle.com/
http://www.buyagro.com/breeder.htm
http://www.agribition.com

Here is a start for those who are interested. In Canada a lot of breeders sell semen packages privately or advertise in the Angus World. Some of the links are to semen distributors but are catalogues seem to be mainly American bulls that are promoted heavily to us. So take a look and see you in November.

P.S. Last year at Agribition there was 700 head of Angus to appraise. Big party=Good time
 

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ZacK I am one that looks for outcrosses....and believe me I've used Jersey, South Devon and anything else that fits my program. Actually had never thought of Canadian genetics to be honest with you until this thread. Went looking a little bit after I had made my post.

Bookmarked a couple of things and thanks for your bookmarks. Perhaps it's somewhere easy to find but are your EPDs calculated in the same way as ours? Carcass data?

Heck I am always looking for improvments and it doesn't have to be registerd black angus. Just has to be able to convert grass to saleable beef.
 

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Why is Canada coming to the US for their genetics? I would guess it's just shear volume and wider availability of choices.
Turns out that one of our preferred bulls for maternal daughters is a Canadian bull. He's in Canada but comes from the US

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Heiferhoney the Canadian Angus EPD's as of last year are directly comparable and carcass traits should be. What do you measure besides IMF, Ribeye and LMY.

Dun: Canadian's use American genetic's because we too are always looking for outcross genetics. There is a lot more promotion and hype behind the American bulls so a service to a new sire is a selling feature.
 
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Dun for hereford man you should realize that American Hereford guys love Canadian genetics especially Remitall!
 

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Dun for hereford man you should realize that American Hereford guys love Canadian genetics especially Remitall!

The bulls we have used are either Feltons or KCF. I don't know squat about Hereford genetics. Red Angus I know.

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Dun I am unfamiliar with those herd names. What bloodlines are using and then why do you have RWF avatar if your a red angus man?
 

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Dun I am unfamiliar with those herd names. What bloodlines are using and then why do you have RWF avatar if your a red angus man?

Feltons was a well respected herd in MO that was very concerned with maternal as well as carcass, and relatively moderate mature size. KCF (Knoll Crest Farms) is in VA and is pretty well widespread in both Hereford and Angus.
We do almost all cross breeding. Our Red Angus cows get bred to Polled Herefords and our baldys get bred either way. Our last Registerd Polled Hereford was shipped last year so we bought the heifer in the avatar. My wife has a real thing about Herefords. If truth be known, so do I, but straightbred Herefords just get killed at the sale barns.
Besides, she's purty!

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