Bright Raven
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I just reached in the center and pulled this out. I like to see those fine blades.
Bright Raven":15ni6cx1 said:A.J.":15ni6cx1 said:Sounds like a heck of a deal, especially with the delivery included. I would find out if the individual sells it for close to that price every year, and if it's good hay, get a deal going forward for next year. Have you thought about building a hay barn? It's been a great investment for us, and really nice when you have hay leftover from the previous year.
Yes. I told Elwood that I would like to continue buying his hay on a annual basis. His farm is about 8 miles from mine so the hauling is quick.
I have thought of putting up one of those hoop hay shelters.
JMJ Farms":3eh1gqcm said:I would like to think he has an ulterior motive, such as cleaning up his hayfields in preparation for baling high quality horse hay. So that makes sense. Maybe he's just trying to break even on the first cutting in exchange for getting his fields clean. Either way I think you done well. There's not much hay of any kind that I would turn down for $30 delivered. That's a steal. I've said it on here before.... I grow my own, with $30/acre/year rent and a $20/bale baling fee, 67"x4' rolls, with a 4 bale/acre yield and my avg cost is $50-$55/roll in the field. Still have to haul it. But only about 5 miles. You done good. Makes me envious. Winter feeding is my single biggest expense, as I would imagine is the case with everyone else as well. I should feed around 400 rolls this year. So that could potentially be a savings to be of $10k. That's $100/cow that could go in my pocket. If I had a reliable, trustworthy source I'd buy it instead of growing it without hesitation.
Bright Raven":2hhjua65 said:BTW: his farm - and his adjoining timber lands produce some of the biggest whitetail deer in the state. Elwood has missed Boone and Crockett by narrow margins a couple times. He must have 15 mounted deer heads.
JMJ Farms":2cwf3v7t said:Bright Raven":2cwf3v7t said:BTW: his farm - and his adjoining timber lands produce some of the biggest whitetail deer in the state. Elwood has missed Boone and Crockett by narrow margins a couple times. He must have 15 mounted deer heads.
Does he do any paid hunts?
Bright Raven":1zvgzx26 said:JMJ Farms":1zvgzx26 said:Bright Raven":1zvgzx26 said:BTW: his farm - and his adjoining timber lands produce some of the biggest whitetail deer in the state. Elwood has missed Boone and Crockett by narrow margins a couple times. He must have 15 mounted deer heads.
Does he do any paid hunts?
Yes. He has in the past. He has some very well placed blinds. Not a hunt in the sense of stalking.
JMJ Farms":2hp0dzlq said:Bright Raven":2hp0dzlq said:JMJ Farms":2hp0dzlq said:Does he do any paid hunts?
Yes. He has in the past. He has some very well placed blinds. Not a hunt in the sense of stalking.
Works for me. I prefer sitting and watching anyway. If I ever get a chance to get up that way I'd like to look him up.
Bright Raven":1ms7yk5m said:JMJ Farms":1ms7yk5m said:Bright Raven":1ms7yk5m said:Yes. He has in the past. He has some very well placed blinds. Not a hunt in the sense of stalking.
Works for me. I prefer sitting and watching anyway. If I ever get a chance to get up that way I'd like to look him up.
I have hunted black bear from a tree stand over bait. I also shot an Eland in African from a blind at a water hole. I shot another Eland in the Lowveld of Zimbabwe by stalking. The stalking was 10 times more exciting. I prefer to hunt big game.
JMJ Farms":3pqvr6ha said:Bright Raven":3pqvr6ha said:JMJ Farms":3pqvr6ha said:Does he do any paid hunts?
Yes. He has in the past. He has some very well placed blinds. Not a hunt in the sense of stalking.
Works for me. I prefer sitting and watching anyway. If I ever get a chance to get up that way I'd like to look him up.
Bright Raven":8m2c6ofo said:JMJ Farms":8m2c6ofo said:Bright Raven":8m2c6ofo said:Yes. He has in the past. He has some very well placed blinds. Not a hunt in the sense of stalking.
Works for me. I prefer sitting and watching anyway. If I ever get a chance to get up that way I'd like to look him up.
I think TT wants me to respond (answer as he calls it):
I'll be happy to introduce you to him if you're ever up this way.
BTW: he told me his son who lives in Lexington does most of the hunting now. Elwood is about 74 and said he does not hunt himself. He is a very busy guy. I can ask him if they bring in any paying hunters anymore. His son has children of hunting age so things have changed.
JMJ Farms":2egemwek said:Bright Raven":2egemwek said:JMJ Farms":2egemwek said:Works for me. I prefer sitting and watching anyway. If I ever get a chance to get up that way I'd like to look him up.
I think TT wants me to respond (answer as he calls it):
I'll be happy to introduce you to him if you're ever up this way.
BTW: he told me his son who lives in Lexington does most of the hunting now. Elwood is about 74 and said he does not hunt himself. He is a very busy guy. I can ask him if they bring in any paying hunters anymore. His son has children of hunting age so things have changed.
I'm proud of you Prince. TT is rubbing off on you. I'd never come next door without visiting you Ron. Even I'm not that rude. (Provided I am welcome. Not rude enough to intrude either)
Even 8% hay doesn't need a tremendous amount of supplementation.JMJ Farms":3f00dn0e said:TexasBred":3f00dn0e said::nod: :nod:Supa Dexta":3f00dn0e said:I'd take that deal all day long, and sit back not having to hay. Plus you're buying in their fertility.
Don't misinterpret this post. I think Ron got a good deal EVEN IF the hay is a little below average, not saying that it is. I just don't understand how a "grower" can sell hay for that price. Land rent or taxes, equipment, labor, fertilizer, fuel, transportation.....$30? I think Ron did well in the deal. My conclusion is that either some people can't figure or they don't fertilize. Other areas may be different from where I live, I honestly don't know, but here, if you don't fertilize, you have 4-8% hay depending on weather and time
of year.
NonTypicalCPA":1b81qkpl said:Does he deliver to Michigan??
TexasBred":2tfgsmcu said:Even 8% hay doesn't need a tremendous amount of supplementation.JMJ Farms":2tfgsmcu said:TexasBred":2tfgsmcu said::nod: :nod:
Don't misinterpret this post. I think Ron got a good deal EVEN IF the hay is a little below average, not saying that it is. I just don't understand how a "grower" can sell hay for that price. Land rent or taxes, equipment, labor, fertilizer, fuel, transportation.....$30? I think Ron did well in the deal. My conclusion is that either some people can't figure or they don't fertilize. Other areas may be different from where I live, I honestly don't know, but here, if you don't fertilize, you have 4-8% hay depending on weather and time
of year.
If he pays that much attention to details and he also sells horse hay I'm gonna bet it will test 11-12%. Timothy just headed out here last week but even though the fescue and orchard grass is a little overdue I think it will test well,Bright Raven":376gi26j said:JMJ Farms":376gi26j said:TexasBred":376gi26j said::nod: :nod:
Don't misinterpret this post. I think Ron got a good deal EVEN IF the hay is a little below average, not saying that it is. I just don't understand how a "grower" can sell hay for that price. Land rent or taxes, equipment, labor, fertilizer, fuel, transportation.....$30? I think Ron did well in the deal. My conclusion is that either some people can't figure or they don't fertilize. Other areas may be different from where I live, I honestly don't know, but here, if you don't fertilize, you have 4-8% hay depending on weather and time
of year.
Elwood Myers is well known. He is also our other county Contract Fencer. He not only fertilizes but he sprays for weeds. Hay this time of the year just does not sell high here. This is certainly not premium hay and I do believe they are light. I also agree - he cannot be making a profit. But , big but, that seems to be typical here. Not many people are good at managing a business.
He sells a lot of very high quality square baled hay to the racehorse farms. My bet is that is where he does ok.