A red White faced PB Char Bull

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Maybe they used a Simmenthal instead of a Hereford. But a red whiteface charolais is just carrying things too far
 
That was one of the best laughs I had in a while!

If you want to dip into their genetics you better keep the chains in good order, BWs like this isn't doing anything for the charolais=dystocia stigma.
 
The birth weights on that group of bulls in Western Canada is not considered excessive and this would be true for the Simmental and Hereford breeds as well.
Any more a bull with a sub 90 LB birth weight and a history of easy calving in the cow family is considered a good heifer bull candidate. This is true for the other mainstream breeds as well.
 
VLS_GUY":f7tqu1py said:
The birth weights on that group of bulls in Western Canada is not considered excessive and this would be true for the Simmental and Hereford breeds as well.
Any more a bull with a sub 90 LB birth weight and a history of easy calving in the cow family is considered a good heifer bull candidate. This is true for the other mainstream breeds as well.

100-115lbs is heavy in anyone's book
 
Remember as you go south you will loose birth weight on the same genetics. You do not have any experience in Western Canada and it shows. We add around 15 LB to the birth weights when comparing bulls born in Texas to those born in Alberta for example. A good example is M6 Gridmaker 104. He has a 83 LB birth weight (in Texas) and his sons with comparable EPDs have birth weights of 95 to 105 on average in Western Canada. Take cattle down to Texas the reverse happens. This is true for any breed I know of.
 
Those BW's aren't anything shocking up here, and they won't have any trouble selling them either. Those 110+ lb bulls might sell for a little less, but not a dramatic amount. Keep in mind that a lot of Char (heck you name the breed) cows will hit that 1500 lb mark easy, and a 100+ lb calf isn't a big deal.

It isn't unusual to see Angus and Hereford bulls in that 95 -105 range either.
 
When we were commercial using Charolais bulls 115 lbs was not considered all that big. 140 was big.
Even when we had our commercial cows with purebred Red Angus 100+ BW's were standard for us. The cows had no problems calving either.
 
Victoria":2mkhhjgy said:
When we were commercial using Charolais bulls 115 lbs was not considered all that big. 140 was big. Even when we had our commercial cows with purebred Red Angus 100+ BW's were standard for us. The cows had no problems calving either.
how common were those 140 pounders.. ??
 
ALACOWMAN":20blop6r said:
Victoria":20blop6r said:
When we were commercial using Charolais bulls 115 lbs was not considered all that big. 140 was big. Even when we had our commercial cows with purebred Red Angus 100+ BW's were standard for us. The cows had no problems calving either.
how common were those 140 pounders.. ??

The cows that were Charolais crosses or Simmental crosses would have male calves that big. We didn't have many of those, better to feed a smaller cow that performs just as well.
 

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