Josher
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Just been looking for good Angus bulls that have enough size. I've tried resource and stunner so far and the resource calves are really nice and stout but there frame size is bit small for my liking.
Well we don't finish our own steers nor have I ever followed up on them to see how they did. But if I go by our cow size we would have 1350-1500lb cows.What are your goals?
1300 lb finished weight angus steers? or are you shooting for 1400 lbs?
Maybe lower epd Red Angus are better suited to your part of Canada.Will definitely look into the suggestions. I just got tired of my brothers lower epd red angus out performing my blacks. This must end lol.
Giving 4404 (Basin Rainmaker) a try this year. Haven't seen in person, but have been told from one that has seen him at stud (not a semen rep), that he was one that actually had some size and stood out at Genex, good structured. Nothing extreme as far as epd's. Dam/Granddam look pretty good, too. SS Niagara as a backup.
Obviously an excellent program & have superior BC's.I'd ask these folks.
Good to know, thanks.. Do you happen to have any pics of your heifers? Who did you breed them to and why, if you don't mind?I sampled Basin Rainmaker (as in cheap intro offer) a couple of years ago and have just joined a couple of his heifers in the last couple of months .They grew very well, I have no complaints with them.
Ken
I'll see what I can do with photos, might take a few days.Good to know, thanks.. Do you happen to have any pics of your heifers? Who did you breed them to and why, if you don't mind?
Well that may be the case. But before I accept defeat I'm gonna pay more attention to frame size in the ai Sires I use. And also make sure they will work and have worked good in more of a northern climate.Maybe lower epd Red Angus are better suited to your part of Canada.
High epd american genetics don't necessarily translate to higher profits everywhere.
About musgrave exclusive have you noticed if his front legs are bowed a little. I asked my ai rep about him and he said he didn't like that about the bull. Just wanted a second opinion and if you've noticed that in his calves..I'll see what I can do with photos, might take a few days.
I used Musgrave Exclusive on both of them. I only have one heifer calf by Exclusive so don't have 1st hand experience with him but have used his sire LD Capitalist and have been happy with a couple of bulls I have bred by him. Exclusive was recommended to me by a fellow that grades my cattle and he spent a long time looking at him in the flesh.
The Rainmaker heifers had good growth. I would say they will grow to the high end of a moderate frame 6ish with good length by breadth by depth and seem easy doing and I am hoping Exclusive complements them. I usually go through the EBV's and see if the sire can plug any holes I see as well but I do try and match the phenotype as well.
Ken
I only have one heifer calf on the ground by Exclusive but haven't noticed anything about her legs but then I haven't looked closely yet. The fellow who recommended him to me is a very astute judge of cattle, that is what he does for a living. He spent some time in the paddock with Exclusive checking his legs and movement and said he found him hard to fault.About musgrave exclusive have you noticed if his front legs are bowed a little. I asked my ai rep about him and he said he didn't like that about the bull. Just wanted a second opinion and if you've noticed that in his calves..