Struggling Military Numbers

[txag]

I dont know where you come up with this stuff about they want to expand welfare and give away our money. Welfare has been going on for yrs and its not just something the democrats do. Every administration wants folks to get out and work.

it's true, eric. welfare reform doesn't happen under democratic leadership. ever hear of the lone star card? republican idea.

i think this is a good place for a little welfare story i have.......

after having my daughter, i was on maternity leave for about 9 weeks. as the time was drawing closer for me to return to work i was dreading the idea of leaving her with a babysitter & cried at the thought. not long before my return date, we were out of town for some reason or another & stopped at a restaurant for supper. during the meal, the baby got fussy so i got up to walk around with her while my husband finished eating (we were then going to switch). while i was up walking, our waitress was up at the checkout counter & we started visiting. she proceeded to tell me that she had a kid not much older than mine. i then mentioned my not wanting to go back to work so soon & she told me that she had decided to just work part-time so she could go on welfare & stay home with her kid. so basically, i was going back to work to support myself & my family as well as her sorry ass & her kid. i didn't leave a tip......i give her a tip every two weeks.

looking at my last paystub, i see that by the end of the year i will have paid over $20,000 in federal taxes. that's just me.....i didn't look at my husband's check & that's not including the cattle income.

i am not against helping people but i prefer to choose where my money goes. i do not like the idea of it going to people who are too lazy to work. if you believe the democrats are for the true "working class" you're dillusioned.

 

[Cattle Rack Rancher]

Cattle Rack,
I can't join the military forces nor any type of police forces....I have several phyiscal disabilities I rather not talk about (I had already mentioned this to you once....got memory loss like your friend Bush?(yes two can play this game!)). If I could, I would volunteer easily!

Two things. Most people at sometime in their life face some sort of adversity, whether it be health problems or whatever. The difference is whether you handle it like a victim or whether you pick up the pieces that you have left and do your best with them. Number 2, you are again mistaking the man (Bush or Kerry) with the issues (Conservatism or Socialism). Up here we're just wondering if you guys are going to get Bush-whacked or Kerried away. :lol:

 

[la4angus]

Cattle Rack,
I can't join the military forces nor any type of police forces....I have several phyiscal disabilities I rather not talk about (I had already mentioned this to you once....got memory loss like your friend Bush?(yes two can play this game!)). If I could, I would volunteer easily!

And just what would you volunteer for. "The French Foriegn Legion"?

 

[la4angus]

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looking at my last paystub, i see that by the end of the year i will have paid over $20,000 in federal taxes. that's just me.....i didn't look at my husband's check & that's not including the cattle income.

i am not against helping people but i prefer to choose where my money goes. i do not like the idea of it going to people who are too lazy to work. if you believe the democrats are for the true "working class" you're dillusioned.

Txag it seems to me that you are almost doing your share helping to support eric and greenmanure78's friends. Now if you would contribute a little more, like 98 % of your income, you could join the hand-out rolls.

 

[eric]

TXAG....sounds like a nice, made up story to fit the cause, but I ain't buying it! And did you decide to put your child in daycare and go back to work? Was buying nice things for your family more important than spending quality time with your child in the most important yrs of his/her life? You had a husband who worked, why didnt you just cut back on some things and stay home with your kid?
You guys are acting like the new president is going to tell everyone to stop working and go on welfare, whatever that is. I don't even think TX has welfare, maybe we call it something else, social services or something. Food stamps? I know we have what we call "Section 8 " housing, where the gov't makes up part of the rent. Not everyone who is not working is there because they dont want to work. I've seen many of my customers close down their factories and eliminate jobs. Some went to countries with less labor costs, some just couldnt compete with the new technology available today. Why not try and create more jobs for more people by bringing those jobs back to America? Give those companies incentives to bring those jobs back over here. Big cities do it everyday to entice companies to move to their city. Raise the minimum wage so people can afford to go to work and not make unemployment pay so attractive. Who the heck cares if they raise the price of hamburgers or pizza, which is where alot of the minimum wage jobs are. Most factories around here already pay above the minimum wage, so it not going to raise prices all that much on most things we purchase.
I dont hold Bush responsible for the economy being the way it is, nor do I think anything will change as far as tax laws and benefits go. My main problems with Bush are that he is too laid back, takes too many vacations and cant make any decisions on his own. And he feels the need to make moral decisions for the whole country. Its not his job to tell us what is morally acceptable and what isnt. He will do whatever his dad tells him to do, or whatever Swingin' Dick Cheney tells him to do. He has been an embarrassment and its time to get him out of there. Have you ever seen him carrying that dog off the plane with him? Thats something a 90 yr old man would do, or an old woman would do.

 

[MULDOON]

Eric , Don't want to get to personal with you , but I am curious as to what exactly you do for a living??
I'm not familiar with Dallas , but from what I"ve heard "Flower Mound" is a very , very well to do area .
I am so glad that you don't hold our President responsible for the econmy!
I think that he has done a great job. I shudder to think of what Gore would have done. I'd be very willing to bet you money that your hero , Bill Clinton had just as much , or more vacation time. I wonder how much time he spent chasing young interns around the Oval Office.
You bitch about a president who is concerned about morals!! I say after
Bill Clinton , it's about time that we have a president that does!!

I've looked back and read some of your previous trash, I see that you are a big Howard Stern fan, That's great, Is that why you don't like Mr. Bush.
I'm pretty sure that when we have 4 years of Bush , You will still be able to listen to your filth, And yes I read where you only listen to howard after youv'e dropped your kids off to school.Do ya have boys or girls??
How would you feel if howard had your daughter on his show, talking about all the nasty things he'd like to do!!
Would that make ya proud???
YUP!!! Your definatly a Democrat, Have a great life :lol:

 

[txag]

TXAG....sounds like a nice, made up story to fit the cause, but I ain't buying it! And did you decide to put your child in daycare and go back to work? Was buying nice things for your family more important than spending quality time with your child in the most important yrs of his/her life? You had a husband who worked, why didnt you just cut back on some things and stay home with your kid?

ok, what part sounds made up? it's all true. every word.
i don't think i have to explain my actions to you but i will. several things to clear up......i did not put my child in daycare. a friend of ours kept her along with two other little girls (for only 8 days per month). no, buying nice things for my family was not more important than spending quality time with my daughter, but being financially secure & providing her with a college education is important. on that same text, i work a schedule where i work 14 days a month. i'd put money on a bet that i spend more quality time with her than you do/did with yours. sure, i could have quit work.....heck maybe we both could have quit & let you pay for us.

I don't even think TX has welfare, maybe we call it something else, social services or something. Food stamps? I know we have what we call "Section 8 " housing, where the gov't makes up part of the rent.

once again you have just proven that you don't know what the heck you're talking about.

Not everyone who is not working is there because they dont want to work. I've seen many of my customers close down their factories and eliminate jobs. Some went to countries with less labor costs, some just couldnt compete with the new technology available today. Why not try and create more jobs for more people by bringing those jobs back to America?

how many of kerry's wife's factories are overseas?

Its not his job to tell us what is morally acceptable and what isnt.

he just doesn't want the rest of us to have to listen to that garbage.

Have you ever seen him carrying that dog off the plane with him?Thats something a 90 yr old man would do, or an old woman would do.

now there's something to base your vote on

 

[branxchar&charx]

eric, so now your an animal rights activist? what the H*ll is the matter with you. i would have voted for john edwards in the primary if i met all the criteria, now i am glad i didnt. i lost ALL the respect i had for him when he decided to be kerrys butt buddy. droppin a dog is an accident. get over it. it should be a no brainer come november, no i am not very fond of Bush but him over kerry anyday. as for the companies overseas, kerrys wife owns a company that has factories all over the world in mexico, asia, south america and so on, why dont he make his wife move all her factories back to the states. of course their not going to do it. so why criticize other companies for doing it if your own company is doing the same thing. makes absolutely so sense at all. i do not like my tax dollars going to people who do not like to work. there should be a limit on how long a person should stay on welfare and unemployment benefits. just to get started is ok but i know and hear people who live on that. sorriest people i have ever known. and tell you the truth, it goes for other habits for themselves and NOT for their kids, for food, for a better place to live. it makes me sick

 

[la4angus]

Yeah eric

slick willy had his vacation in the oval office with monica smoking his cigar.

 

[Cattle Rack Rancher]

Some went to countries with less labor costs, some just couldnt compete with the new technology available today. Why not try and create more jobs for more people by bringing those jobs back to America? Give those companies incentives to bring those jobs back over here. Big cities do it everyday to entice companies to move to their city. Raise the minimum wage so people can afford to go to work and not make unemployment pay so attractive. Who the heck cares if they raise the price of hamburgers or pizza, which is where alot of the minimum wage jobs are.

Another guy who doesn't have much of a concept of economics. Raising minimum wage is directly inflationary because when costs go up everybody needs to make more money to support their standard of living. Like it or not, you are in a world economy, products will be manufactured wherever it is cheapest to manufacture. Tariffs and other protectionist measures will only gain you retaliatory measures from other countries. Eventually, it will stall your export markets and greatly increase the prices on your imports. Instead of raising min wage, lower welfare rates, this will motivate people to get off their behinds. I do agree with you on the morality issues, though, as long as people are consenting adults, the government should have no right to monitor their activities. If you are a good Christian, you know that God will judge them.

 

[dun]

Most everyone has something that is important to them above all others when it comes to electing their governemtn. Some it is dem or Republican, some it abortion, others it may be how they part their hair, or if the carry a dog on and off a plane.
The two issues that make my decisions in this election pretty simple is being a traitor, i.e. giving aid and comfort to the enemy, and the CONSTITUTION. There is very little that is sadi about free speech, freedom of religion but the 2nd amendnment seems to be hard for the democrats to comprehend. I suppose the 2nd amendment was put 2nd by the luck of the draw and not because of it's perceived importance by our founding fathers. All else being equal I would vote for the progun candidate. But if that was kerry and Bush was antigun I would have to vote for nader or no-one, I can never forgive or vote for a traitor.

dun

 

[Michelle Pankonien]

Well I for one don't sit around on my but all day on the CT Q&A board, I look in on it from time to time when it is slow and try and add a comment here and there, and I would be a USMC person if I had not damaged my body riding horses and skiing when I was younger, I have too many serious physical injuries to make the physical exam. I would be proud to serve my country and would happily if my body would have been good enough to do so, also my prefered proffesion would have been to be a sniper, and I lost 45% of my vision in might right eye and have not re- trained to learn to shoot my long rifle left handed, but I can still knock the head off a bird at 100 yards with a scope to improve my poor vision

 

[Copenhagen & Shiner B]

Quit listening to everything Bush or Cheney said THEY ARE NOT GODS!

Amen Greepasture78! I voted for Bush against the dumbocrats in 2000, but that doesnt mean that I think that they are gods. I have only supported about 51% of what Bush has done because he is not all that conservative. Bush kinda reminds me of LBJ and Abe Lincoln with his love for propping up the military/industrial complex, affinity for useless wars, and his ignorance of the constitution. If you stuck a gun to my head and said Bush or Kerry, I would say Bush, but until then I will most likely vote Libertarian in November.

 

[Copenhagen & Shiner B]

And also watching the great John Edwards (the next VP) make one of the most brilliant speeches in my lifetime.

John Edwards is a sleazy ambulance chasin' lawyer. He only ran for president this year because he didnt stand a snowball's chance in hell of being reelected in North Carolina for his senate seat. He is a scumbag lawyer par excellence.

 

[la4angus]

And also watching the great John Edwards (the next VP) make one of the most brilliant speeches in my lifetime.

John Edwards is a sleazy ambulance chasin' lawyer. He only ran for president this year because he didnt stand a snowball's chance in hell of being reelected in North Carolina for his senate seat. He is a scumbag lawyer par excellence.

Yeah. he thinks the ladies think he's cute. Might get those votes.That's what the dems were talking about a yr. or so ago.

 

[Copenhagen & Shiner B]

How can you not agree with Kerry's plan to give a tax break to 98% of Americans, raising the tax on the top 2% of wealth in this country, making sure no family with 2 working parents ever lives in poverty again, making health care affordable for everyone and spending more money on schools and afterschool care?

No thanks, I would rather my tax money go to rebuild inner city America and create more jobs in this country, then go to rebuild some sh**le country overseas.

Eric, the federal government is the problem, not the solution. People should not be penalised by a higher tax rate if they work harder and earn more money. People whose ancestors worked hard to provide for them should not be penalised with a communistic inheritance tax. Most of the federal government programs should be dismantled or taken over by the states . The tax rate then should not be cut until the federal deficit is paid off and then it (federal income tax) should be replaced with a sales tax or flat tax. The inner cities should be taken off the federal government life support and left to whatever the natural order of evolution has for them.

 

[Texan]

i think this is a good place for a little welfare story i have.......

A great story, txag. I don't understand why Eric "ain't buying it!" People have to make choices like that every day. More and more seem to be wanting to choose the easy route like the waitress did. Wish we had more to take the responsible route like you did!

looking at my last paystub, i see that by the end of the year i will have paid over $20,000 in federal taxes

Not enough! That will barely support one lazy waitress in a comfortable lifestyle. Do your share txag.

i am not against helping people but i prefer to choose where my money goes. i do not like the idea of it going to people who are too lazy to work.

 

[la4angus]

no, buying nice things for my family was not more important than spending quality time with my daughter, but being financially secure & providing her with a college education is important.

Maybe if more of the hard core liberal socialist democrats had 1/2 the family values that txag has, we wouldn't have the dope being used inelementary and high schools that we have today, there may not have the Columbine massacre, or maybe if Paris Hilton, the Hilton Hotel empire heirs daughter, may have the good sense not to have had movies made of her having sex with her boy friend for all the world to see. Some things used to be private.
Maybe some of the liberals out here could take some lessons from txag and learn some true Christian family values.

Nuff said.