salers disposition?

[bandit80]

Many people back in the early 70's chose to breed those big headed, big shouldered fullblood bulls to their small british cows.
We used AI & bred to them also, back starting in 1969. Never had any major calving difficulties - luck or management picking the right kind of bulls - don't know. But, when the Simmental breed first came here, the slogan was "Breed them All - Simmental". Well, every backyard breeder picked out their lower quality cows to "try" the new breed. Yup, those bulls were cow-killers - just ask those breeders.
But, lets get into the current day & age. Major difference. Research shows Simmentals to be easier calving than the Herefords & almost equal to the Angus (I believe within 1%).

Gelbvieh had some of the same problems as well. Look at the average birth weight for Angus, Simmental, Herefords, and Gelbviehs. Start in the 70's, and look at the average today. I can't remember where the article was and can't find it on the web, but if I remember correctly, the avg BW for Angus calves in 1073 was 68 lbs. Gelbvieh in 1978 was 98 lbs. In 2003, Angus avg 81 lbs, and Gelbvieh averaged 85 lbs. Don't quote me on the numbers, but I think that was pretty close.

Every breed has a reputation for this or that, some are myths, some are accurate.

 

[Red Bull Breeder]

Almost all breeds of cattle will have bigger calves now than then. Herford and angus cattle back then would have trouble having a calf much bigger than a border collie dog. Simmemtal cattle have not done that well around here in my area. So i don't have much to go on about them being the most improved breed.

 

[greenwillowhereford II]

The average Hereford BW EPD is now about 3.8 last I knew. That is right at 4 pounds heavier than the average BW in 1977. Meanwhile, the average WW EPD is in the mid to high thirties, and YW is about 67. So for an extra 4 pounds of BW, we have 35# heavier weaning weights, and 67# heavier yearling weights. I think I read some time back that the average BW of Herefords now is 85#.

 

[Francois]

I don't know of any Salers in New York - might be some somewhere - just not active breeders in the state.

I just returned for a trip to New York and seen very few cattle of any breed out there. I was surprised at how much corn, soybeans, wheat and alfalfa they grow.

 

[TREY-L]

I am just tired of people bashing a breed when they tried them 20 years ago.

So when can we expect you to start practicing what you are preaching?

 

[TREY-L]

I am just tired of people bashing a breed when they tried them 20 years ago.

So when can we expect you to start practicing what you are preaching?

I already have .

It's good to see you acting your age