LMCR":2hizta5n said:Yes, I own the sire and he is 100% registered red angus. I don't believe that another bull could have been in with my heifers without my knowledge.
I do know that anything is possible, but I don't think so.
dun":1fvt3gx6 said:LMCR":1fvt3gx6 said:Yes, I own the sire and he is 100% registered red angus. I don't believe that another bull could have been in with my heifers without my knowledge.
I do know that anything is possible, but I don't think so.
Are both parents 1A or are they 1B?
dun
LMCR":1pprlpda said:Yes, I own the sire and he is 100% registered red angus. I don't believe that another bull could have been in with my heifers without my knowledge.
I do know that anything is possible, but I don't think so.
la4angus":1q6z3v7q said:LMCR":1q6z3v7q said:Yes, I own the sire and he is 100% registered red angus. I don't believe that another bull could have been in with my heifers without my knowledge.
I do know that anything is possible, but I don't think so.
You should have your bull and calf dna tested to prove that the bull is indeed the sire of the calf.
If he is indeed the sire you may want to get rid of him and find another bull for your herd sire.
If the bull is the sire he could throw other horned calves or calves with the horned gene.
I am not as familiar with the Red Angus breed, as I am with the Blacks but I believe the Red's have a breeding up program and he could have some horned genes from some ancestors generations ago.
txag":xso4x2q0 said:if they are truly horns & not scurs, then both parents must have passed on the horned gene, not just the bull. horns are a recessive trait so two copies of the gene must be present for the trait to be seen.
Don't give her the big head, LA! ;-)la4angus":188wme27 said:Absolutely correct txag.
Texan":1smvqyg9 said:Don't give her the big head, LA! ;-)la4angus":1smvqyg9 said:Absolutely correct txag.
la4angus":w1jfnpev said:txag":w1jfnpev said:if they are truly horns & not scurs, then both parents must have passed on the horned gene, not just the bull. horns are a recessive trait so two copies of the gene must be present for the trait to be seen.
Absolutely correct txag.
Both the sire and dam ancestors could have come from a breeding up program
DRB":1u7le1n9 said:Are you sure they are horns and not scurs???
txag":3rbt21pf said:if they are truly horns & not scurs, then both parents must have passed on the horned gene, not just the bull. horns are a recessive trait so two copies of the gene must be present for the trait to be seen.
if they are truly horns & not scurs, then both parents must have passed on the horned gene, not just the bull. horns are a recessive trait so two copies of the gene must be present for the trait to be seen.
Cattle Rack Rancher":2i1rr2d2 said:if they are truly horns & not scurs, then both parents must have passed on the horned gene, not just the bull. horns are a recessive trait so two copies of the gene must be present for the trait to be seen.
That seems to be the common thinking on that topic, but i've been wondering lately if there isn't more to it than that. I've been using a Simm-Angus bull for the last few years. The guy who sold him to me swore that he was off of a Grand Champion Angus bull from Denver and one of his purebred horned Simm cows. He has small horns, something between a scur and a full sized horn. I had assumed that maybe had been bred up with a little Limo or something. Alot of my herd is not homozygous polled and so some calves are coming out horned and some polled. This year, one of my horned cows had a heifer calf that is polled. So I've got a polled calf off a horned bull and a horned cow. The last two calves she had were bull calves and had horns. One of them was off a double polled hereford bull. Now I'm wondering if that polled gene might be sex linked somehow. Its got me scratching my head anyway :?:
dun":zm1ktizt said:That was why I asked about 1A or 1B. 1A is 100% Angus, no breeding up. 1B are bred up.
dun