TNfamilyfarm
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Alright here is a crazy question: How long does hay keep? The cows would rather have the most recent cut and are turning their heads at the older hay.
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Mahoney Pursley Ranch
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I'm feeding two year old round bales of hay this year that has been outside uncovered since it was baled and net wraped. The first layer is weathered and of course doesn't have the nutrient value it had when it was baled but they eat it with no problem. Would they prefer this years hay,I suppose they would but they are doing fine with what they get.
TNfamilyfarm
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Angus/Brangus":3bhlarnf said:
The hay I'm refering to has been kept outside. I've heard of black cows out west eatting almost like goats clearing the fence line!
TNfamilyfarm
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Mahoney Pursley Ranch":3nbcofdt said:
Dang! I ended up with the picky ones, here in Tennessee. Depending on what hay I am feeding new vs old the cows will either dive right in and start eatting or stand at the fence and fuss. Mostly a black heard
Mahoney Pursley Ranch
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My herd is mostly black also. Should have never given them a taste of that new hay.If you hadn't they wouldn't know the differance. You didn't end up with the picky ones :lol: cows have the same taste buds most everywhere. ;-)
TNfamilyfarm
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Mahoney Pursley Ranch":1wc0khsm said:
so, what do I do now? stick with the old hay until out or finish the new hay then use the old? Your last two sentences are killing me. LOL
Mahoney Pursley Ranch
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Feed them the old stuff first till it's gone. They will eat it when they realize that's all they are going to get. ;-)
TNfamilyfarm
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Cool I will give it a try. I just hated for them to protest eatting! I also thought that I could pour some syrup or honey on it.
rdbigfarmboy
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The old hay has lost some taste, some protein, digestibility, and energy. If you feed it alone add some protein and or grain. Watch the manure see how they do on the hay do they digest it well. Does each animal spend all day eating? Depends on how much old hay you have.
I try to feed worst hay first, unless I have weak animals.
I try to feed worst hay first, unless I have weak animals.
Mahoney Pursley Ranch
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Well said and I agree. I might add that I supplement my hay with cubes and some cracked corn in the winter,new hay or old.rdbigfarmboy":knok5dy8 said:
Jogeephus
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I always feed the old stuff first - or until they begin lactating. Then I switch to the best stuff I have and feed this till they begin grazing and then switch back to old.
grannysoo
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They will eat the old stuff or starve...... 
TNfamilyfarm
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Supplements are very nice. I keep a protien tub down, along with a mineral block. Of course they get there daily ration of grain
Central Fl Cracker
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From Cattletoday.
HAYMASTER NUTRITION INJECTION SYSTEM SAVES OLD AND POOR HAY
Savannah, GA -- A new patented internal hay treatment system, The HayMasterâ"¢ Nutrition Injection System, transforms old and poor hay into nutritional hay that cows love to eat. The patented method, invented by Thomas Cox, Sr. of Savannah, Georgia, employs a three-point hitch mounted device that combines “hay hook†transportation with injection of specially formulated nutrients through three injector-support shafts dramatically saving both labor and costs.
“The entire operation is done by one man and a tractor, an enormous savings in labor, time and cost,†says Cox.
Bales are retrieved from field or storage using the HayMasterâ"¢ device. The forged steel support hay spears can support the heaviest and tightest round bales and treat them internally while moving to the feeding site or storage. The directional spray patterns of the shafts' venturis are designed to permeate 60 to 70 percent of the bale with the HayMasterâ"¢ molasses-based patented formulas: Sweet Rollâ"¢ (with Vitamins, Minerals, energy and StemClingâ"¢) and Bale Boosterâ"¢ (for Vitamins, Minerals, Energy, StemClingâ"¢ and Protein).
“For less than $3 each (1500 pounds average), you can now feed every old or poor bale with confidence and deliver more energy, vitamins, minerals and protein per bale than your freshest and best hay,†says Cox. “You save labor because the HayMasterâ"¢ System is a one-man operation--you move the hay wherever you want it; treat it as you go; and when you set it down it's permeated with smell and taste cows love.â€
The operator activates the hydraulic lift and begins transporting the bale to the feeding site. The operator engages the PTO driven roller pump. Once treatment has been completed, he disengages the pump and continues transporting to the feeding area. Bales are ready-to-eat immediately following treatment. Operators can also treat bales for future use.
In addition to the three point hitch device, HayMasterâ"¢ Systems offers a smaller, hand held portable, patented system, which can be placed in a pick up truck bed and features a 12-volt pump which drives the HayMasterâ"¢ formulas into bales using a hand-held injector shaft. The same patented formulas are used with the hand-held system and with the same results-cows will eat any old or poor hay and receive energy, vitamins, minerals and protein.
HayMasterâ"¢ formulas make even your oldest or poorest round bales appetizing with energy, nutrients and protein, reducing the need for supplemental rations. The HayMasterâ"¢ System formulas enhance cornstalk bales or other rough hay and make them "sweet rolls" to cattle.
Cox conceived this system while living on an historic plantation in north Georgia, where he owned cows. “I had to figure out a way to save the previous season bales of hay that lined my fences when I bought the place. You just couldn't find hay for sale that year, so I had to feed what I had. I watched my farmhand pick up a bale with a traditional hay hook, and I got the idea to mount together several hay hooks with injectors shafts to carry the hay and inject it at the same time. Then we developed formulas that will work perfectly with the pump and pressure lines. I am grateful that it seems to be helping both the cow and the cattleman,†says Cox.
The system has been tested by farmers with great success
HAYMASTER NUTRITION INJECTION SYSTEM SAVES OLD AND POOR HAY
Savannah, GA -- A new patented internal hay treatment system, The HayMasterâ"¢ Nutrition Injection System, transforms old and poor hay into nutritional hay that cows love to eat. The patented method, invented by Thomas Cox, Sr. of Savannah, Georgia, employs a three-point hitch mounted device that combines “hay hook†transportation with injection of specially formulated nutrients through three injector-support shafts dramatically saving both labor and costs.
“The entire operation is done by one man and a tractor, an enormous savings in labor, time and cost,†says Cox.
Bales are retrieved from field or storage using the HayMasterâ"¢ device. The forged steel support hay spears can support the heaviest and tightest round bales and treat them internally while moving to the feeding site or storage. The directional spray patterns of the shafts' venturis are designed to permeate 60 to 70 percent of the bale with the HayMasterâ"¢ molasses-based patented formulas: Sweet Rollâ"¢ (with Vitamins, Minerals, energy and StemClingâ"¢) and Bale Boosterâ"¢ (for Vitamins, Minerals, Energy, StemClingâ"¢ and Protein).
“For less than $3 each (1500 pounds average), you can now feed every old or poor bale with confidence and deliver more energy, vitamins, minerals and protein per bale than your freshest and best hay,†says Cox. “You save labor because the HayMasterâ"¢ System is a one-man operation--you move the hay wherever you want it; treat it as you go; and when you set it down it's permeated with smell and taste cows love.â€
The operator activates the hydraulic lift and begins transporting the bale to the feeding site. The operator engages the PTO driven roller pump. Once treatment has been completed, he disengages the pump and continues transporting to the feeding area. Bales are ready-to-eat immediately following treatment. Operators can also treat bales for future use.
In addition to the three point hitch device, HayMasterâ"¢ Systems offers a smaller, hand held portable, patented system, which can be placed in a pick up truck bed and features a 12-volt pump which drives the HayMasterâ"¢ formulas into bales using a hand-held injector shaft. The same patented formulas are used with the hand-held system and with the same results-cows will eat any old or poor hay and receive energy, vitamins, minerals and protein.
HayMasterâ"¢ formulas make even your oldest or poorest round bales appetizing with energy, nutrients and protein, reducing the need for supplemental rations. The HayMasterâ"¢ System formulas enhance cornstalk bales or other rough hay and make them "sweet rolls" to cattle.
Cox conceived this system while living on an historic plantation in north Georgia, where he owned cows. “I had to figure out a way to save the previous season bales of hay that lined my fences when I bought the place. You just couldn't find hay for sale that year, so I had to feed what I had. I watched my farmhand pick up a bale with a traditional hay hook, and I got the idea to mount together several hay hooks with injectors shafts to carry the hay and inject it at the same time. Then we developed formulas that will work perfectly with the pump and pressure lines. I am grateful that it seems to be helping both the cow and the cattleman,†says Cox.
The system has been tested by farmers with great success
backhoeboogie
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In '05, they were hauling and selling 6 year old coastal rounds here. Maybe it was being treated and fed? I don't know. Most of it was headed to the Cresson, TX area. The buyers were paying $60 a bale for it.
Mahoney Pursley Ranch
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And glad to get it.backhoeboogie":1yycm5qi said:
grannysoo
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Chris H":8waaklok said:grannysoo":8waaklok said:They will eat the old stuff or starve......
I've seen cows eat the old stuff and STILL starve...
Don't worry... they get the appropriate minerals and protein to go along with it.
Keeping the stomach full doesn't insure that they have what they need. They don't always know what they need - that's our job. They do know however when their stomach is not full and old hay can solve that problem.
We're on the same page with this one. Thanks Chris.
