Well, Its settled. Dealer finally found a NH 4.75 late yesterday Cab FWA NH Loader. I signed for it at 5pm. I own 3 Case 580 Backhoes that all have Iveco engines they have great a reputation from what know. I hope the filters will interchange but I'm sure I'm dreaming. I looked at a JD 5075E hard compared to the NH 4.75. I just thought there was a lot more tractor there $ for $ with the NH. 4cylr vs. 3cylr. alot roomer cab, more options etc. Thanks for all the help. I hope I like it and don't wish I had my JD 5205 back. B&G