cattle_gal":uvnyxoh2 said:
Oh Craig please don't sound like those predator lovers…
Oh cattle_gal please don't get started characterizing me that way. Before you shoot your mouth off you should either take the trouble to read my record here on predators or keep your mouth shut. My record on predators and their so-called rights speaks for itself. It's there for the looking if you want to read it. Look at the archives.
cattle_gal":uvnyxoh2 said:
…and say coyotes never engage in sport killing.
I'll stand by my remark. They don't, certainly not with cattle which is the subject of this thread. Maybe you have a different kind of coyote there. Around here they are wild enough that they're not going to waste energy on something like that. And they don't. This is a cattle board and the question was about calves. Further, I stand by my remark when it comes to sheep. Dogs are much worse than wild predators when it comes to sport-killing sheep.
cattle_gal":uvnyxoh2 said:
That's like saying they only kill the sick,weak and old.
Are you saying they go after the healthy, strong and young cattle?
cattle_gal":uvnyxoh2 said:
I've been fighting the predator lovesr for how long now - 10 years.
Well power to you! I've been fighting the predators themselves for a lot longer than that.
cattle_gal":uvnyxoh2 said:
But let me tell you coyotes and wolves love sport killing.
Let me tell you they don't down here in Texas.
cattle_gal":uvnyxoh2 said:
We lost 1/2 of our band the last year we were in the sheep business, because of coyotes and bobcats. It's not very comforting to watch a coyote run through the band and as fast as he could run he was snapping necks as quickly. And that is was not a rare instance. And couldn't shoot them as they were doingit either. They never stopped running after they got out of the sheep jsut kept going just as fast.
Well, there's another difference between you and the way it works down here. We shoot anyway. What do you want the coyote to do, stop and strike a pose for you while you brace good and draw a bead?
cattle_gal":uvnyxoh2 said:
Things got bad after Nixon banned 24D.
They were bad before. But if you've only been at it for ten years you can't remember.
cattle_gal":uvnyxoh2 said:
They do like to hit calves and sheep in the hind. The yearling instances I was speaking of are with the wolves.
No they don't. Not coyotes. They don't kill their prey that way. If you're taking about wolves, I'm not experienced and can't comment. Which is why I'm not shooting my mouth off about them.
cattle_gal":uvnyxoh2 said:
But we have had chunks of rear taken out of yearlings a few times about 20 years ago.
Not by coyotes. Coyotes go after the young. And contrary to what you say, the do go after the sick, weak and old. They don't have enough butt on them to take down a yearling or a grown cow/bull. Unless you're growing some mighty big coyotes up there. Down here a coyote probably averages 30# and a 50# coyote would be a trophy.
cattle_gal":uvnyxoh2 said:
You see Craig there is a reason why we needed to enhance the mother cows instincts… Especially where predator lovers want predators to flourish which happens to be where livestock is.
Get off you high horse cattle gal. You're preaching to the choir. And it ain't no ignorant choir. BTW, exactly how do you go about enhancing a mother cow's instincts?
cattle_gal":uvnyxoh2 said:
Here's a site I'd like you to take a look at-
Montana Life
I looked. Where are all the calves that were killed for sport? And how do you know it was coyotes?
Craig-TX