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Michelle Pankonien

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When the settlers came here and crossed the plains it was strong women who held the family together and kept the nation stron, weeklings were weeded out by a process of natural elimination.

I can't figure out why it is so noteworthy when a women says what she thinks verses a man

I also live in Texas, but was born in Lincoln NE, and raised in Northern California, I was raised a liberal, went to a hard core conservative military college and married a native Texan who is very concervative

No norms aply to me or many women, we are people who contribute to this society just like most men, and we share our thoughts just like men do, whoop D do, so what, I don't get why so many men make an issue of it, we can still be Ladies, and our husbands still treat us as Ladies

We are not like the old addage " should be seen and not heard"
 
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I just want everyone to know I wear the pants in my family, and I have my wifes permission to say that :)
Hey it takes partners to make it work.
Just completed 39 years and working on 40
 

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I’ve never been a male chauvinist. I’ve got far too many intelligent and capable women in my family to take that stance. Besides that they can shoot.

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Below is an awesome piece by an intelligent, articulate, confident woman with a great sense of humor. Ever notice how most women with these qualities aren’t bitter? Or queer? Or liberal? Anyway, this is a great read.

Brothers Band Together Against Kerry
August 11, 2004
by Ann coulter


Democrats haven't been this upset about an American engaging in free speech since Juanita Broaddrick opened her yap.

Two hundred fifty-four Swift Boat Veterans have signed a letter saying John Kerry is not fit to be commander in chief, a point developed in some detail in the blockbuster new book by John O'Neill, aptly titled "Unfit for Command." At the 2003 reunion of Swift Boat Veterans, about 300 men showed up: 85 percent of them think Kerry is unfit to be president. (On the bright side, Kerry was voted, in absentia, "Most Likely to Run for President on His Phony War Record.") Fewer than 10 percent of all Swift Boat Veterans contacted refused to sign the letter.

Kerry was in Vietnam for only four months, which, coincidentally, is less than the combined airtime he's spent talking about it. It takes a special kind of person to get that many people to hate your guts in so little time. The last time this many people hated one person after only four months was when Margaret Cho had her own sitcom.

But our young Eddie Haskell managed to annoy other servicemen even before he came home and called them war criminals. About 60 eyewitnesses to Kerry's service are cited in the book, describing Kerry fleeing comrades who were under attack, disregarding orders, putting others in danger, sucking up to his commanders, creating phony film footage of his exploits with a home-movie camera, and recommending himself for medals and Purple Hearts in vainglorious reports he wrote himself. (This was apparently before the concept of "fragging" put limits on such behavior.)

After three months of combat, Kerry had collected enough film footage for his political campaigns, so he went home. He even shot three different endings to the episode where he chases down a VC guy after test audiences thought Kerry shooting a wounded teenager in the back was too much of a "downer." After filming his last staged exploit, Kerry reportedly told a buddy, "That's a wrap. See you at the convention in about 35 years."

Kerry is demanding to be made president on the basis of spending four months in Vietnam 35 years ago. And yet the men who know what he did during those four months don't think he's fit to be dogcatcher. That seems newsworthy to me, but I must be wrong since the media have engineered a total blackout of the Swift Boat Veterans.

In May, the Swiftees held a spellbinding press conference in Washington, D.C. In front of a photo being used by the Kerry campaign to tout Kerry's war service, the officers stood up, one by one, pointed to their own faces in the campaign photo, and announced that they believed Kerry unfit for command. Only one officer in the photo supports Kerry for president. Seventeen say he is not fit to be president.

The press covered it much as they covered Paula Jones' first press conference.

With the media playing their usual role as Truth Commissar for the now-dead Soviet Union, the Swiftees are having to purchase ad time in order to be heard. No Tim Russert interviews, no "Today" show appearances, no New York Times editorials or Vanity Fair hagiographies for these heretics against the liberal religion. The only way Swift Boat Veterans for Truth could get less attention would be to go on "Air America" radio.
If the 254 veterans against Kerry got one-tenth as much media coverage for calling Kerry a liar as Clown Joe Wilson did for calling Bush a liar, the veterans wouldn't need to buy ad time to get their message out. (Wilson, you'll recall, was a media darling for six or seven months before being exposed as a fantasist by Senate investigators.)

With their commitment to free speech and a robust exchange of ideas (i.e., "child pornography" and "sedition"), the Democratic National Committee is threatening to sue TV stations that run the Swift Boat Veterans' paid ads. Sue? Can you tell already that there are two lawyers at the top of the Democratic ticket? These are the same people who accuse John Ashcroft of shredding the Bill of Rights. WHY ISN'T THE PRESS COVERING THIS??? Wait, now I remember. OK, never mind. (Contribute to the Swift Boat Veterans here.)

The threat to sue is absurd, but will allow the very same TV stations that are already censoring the Swiftees to have an excuse to censor even purchased airtime.

Leave aside the fact that Kerry is a presidential candidate and – judging by the ads being run against George Bush – I gather there's nothing you can't say about a presidential candidate, including calling him Hitler. After reading "Unfit for Command," I am pretty sure Kerry doesn't want a neutral tribunal deciding who's telling the truth here.

The Swift Boat Veterans provide detailed accounts from dozens and dozens of eyewitnesses to Kerry's Uriah Heep-like behavior – which "Unfit for Command" contrasts with Kerry's boastful descriptions of the exact same incidents.

By contrast, Kerry's supporters have their usual off-the-rack denunciations of any witness against a Democrat. The veterans are: liars, bigots, idiots, politically motivated, and I was never alone in a hotel with Paula Jones.

Ron Brownstein, Los Angeles Times reporter and Bill Clinton's favorite reporter, compared the Swift Boat Veterans' ad to a "snuff film." He claimed the veterans have "strong Republican ties."
Apparently, before being permitted to engage in free speech against Democrats in this country you have to: (1) prove that you are not a Republican, (2) take a vow of poverty, and (3) purchase the right to speak in a TV ad. On the basis of Clown Wilson, Michael Moore, George Soros, Moveon.org, etc., etc., etc., I gather the requirements for engaging in free speech against a Republican are somewhat less rigorous. Hey! Maybe John Edwards is right: There really are two Americas!
O'Neill, the author of "Unfit for Command" and founder of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, can be heard on the Nixon tapes – unaware that he was being taped – telling Nixon that he came from a family of Democrats and voted for Hubert Humphrey in the prior election. Unlike Joe Wilson, Anita Hill or Richard Clarke, Woodward and Bernstein, et al., O'Neill has said he will take no royalties on his book but will donate all his profits to the Navy. So I think even under liberals' rules, O'Neill is allowed to have an opinion.

Before the book was released and O'Neill could appear to defend it, liberals were on television denouncing the book. If memory serves, the last book Democrats tried this hard to suppress was the Bible. The DNC is threatening to sue to prevent the Swift Boat Veterans from buying ad time. When Democrats are this terrified of a book, it's not because they have a good answer. Howard Dean can accuse Ashcroft of book-burning all he wants, but it's the Democrats who are doing everything in their power to prevent you from reading "Unfit for Command." In bookstores beginning this week

http://www.anncoulter.org/default.htm
 

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Good post Michelle.
I for one respect women and their appreciate yours and many other womens common sense knowledge about the cattle business.
Many men could learn much from you , txag, certherfbeef, Cattle Annie and many others that I don't know about.

Michelle Pankonien":1z827biy said:
When the settlers came here and crossed the plains it was strong women who held the family together and kept the nation stron, weeklings were weeded out by a process of natural elimination.

I can't figure out why it is so noteworthy when a women says what she thinks verses a man

I also live in Texas, but was born in Lincoln NE, and raised in Northern California, I was raised a liberal, went to a hard core conservative military college and married a native Texan who is very concervative

No norms aply to me or many women, we are people who contribute to this society just like most men, and we share our thoughts just like men do, whoop D do, so what, I don't get why so many men make an issue of it, we can still be Ladies, and our husbands still treat us as Ladies

We are not like the old addage " should be seen and not heard"
 

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This story really loses credibility when the author says, paraphrasing:" Kerry wrote 3 endings to his film, and changed the original ending because test audiences didnt like seeing a VC shot in the back"
And then the author stated: Kerry says to a buddy, "I'll see you at the convention in 35 yrs!!" Makes for a great story, just not a believable one.

So these "Swiffee's" knew Kerry for 3 months, over 35 yrs ago, and now claim him unfit to be a president? Sorry, but it sounds like bitter jealousy to me. Who in here didnt do things 35 yrs ago that they wouldnt do today?
I just find it hard to belive that Kerry's advisors would make his war service such a big part of his campaign without checking everything out.
They knew the Bush people would attack everything he said and they surely had their ducks in a row before they released it.

As for the "Swiffers" not getting any air time, they released their statement, and most people, me included, didnt find alot of relevance in something that happened in the middle of a war over 35 yrs ago! We are more concerned with what is happening nowadays with our country. I personally dont like where this war overseas is heading, I dont feel the president has a plan to end it anytime soon and I cant see voting for someone who's philosophy for the next few yrs is so much different than what I believe it should be.
 

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When the settlers came here and crossed the plains it was strong women who held the family together and kept the nation stron, weeklings were weeded out by a process of natural elimination.

I can't figure out why it is so noteworthy when a women says what she thinks verses a man

I also live in Texas, but was born in Lincoln NE, and raised in Northern California, I was raised a liberal, went to a hard core conservative military college and married a native Texan who is very concervative

No norms aply to me or many women, we are people who contribute to this society just like most men, and we share our thoughts just like men do, whoop D do, so what, I don't get why so many men make an issue of it, we can still be Ladies, and our husbands still treat us as Ladies

We are not like the old addage " should be seen and not heard"

My father told me something very valuable before I got married. He said "When it comes to women, just do as your told and everything will be fine". I tried thinking independently for a while, making my own decisions and such but I now do what I'm told and have an easier life for it.
 
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Eric,

Listen up, men who fight together even for a few days and survice build lifelong memories of eachother, it is life changing and leaves granit like memmories in your head, man men who faught in Viet Nam still to this day have traumatic night mares from the brief encounters they had

YES in three monthes you can learn to love and respect someone, or hate their guts for being a spineless pus**, and remeber it for a lifetime, even until your dieing breath

and apparently Kerry was just the sort that got under your skin like a burr, and festered till you gouged it out and poured gas on it to kill the putrification and stench left behind
 

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Cattle Rack Rancher":2cnd8gcz said:
When the settlers came here and crossed the plains it was strong women who held the family together and kept the nation stron, weeklings were weeded out by a process of natural elimination.

I can't figure out why it is so noteworthy when a women says what she thinks verses a man

I also live in Texas, but was born in Lincoln NE, and raised in Northern California, I was raised a liberal, went to a hard core conservative military college and married a native Texan who is very concervative

No norms aply to me or many women, we are people who contribute to this society just like most men, and we share our thoughts just like men do, whoop D do, so what, I don't get why so many men make an issue of it, we can still be Ladies, and our husbands still treat us as Ladies

We are not like the old addage " should be seen and not heard"

My father told me something very valuable before I got married. He said "When it comes to women, just do as your told and everything will be fine". I tried thinking independently for a while, making my own decisions and such but I now do what I'm told and have an easier life for it.

Cattle Rack, you should have done what I did on our honeymoon. Set things straight from the get go.

When my wife and I got to the hotel room and things started getting romantic the first thing I did was take my skivvies and throw them at her. She caught them and asked “What am I supposed to do with these?” and I told her to put them on. She said “I can’t wear your pants!” I responded in a firm tone that she was absolutely correct, she couldn’t wear my pants and she’d best not ever forget it. Then she took her panties off, threw them at me, and said to put them on. I told her in a sarcastic tone that I couldn’t even get in her panties. She said “That’s right, and your not going to until your attitude changes.”

There’s nothing like an understanding.

Craig-TX
 

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I wasn't aware that txag and cerfthebeef were ladies.

But it seems appropriate that l4angus would know............

:roll: :roll: :roll:
 

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cherokeeruby":25928tqb said:
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I wasn't aware that txag and cerfthebeef were ladies.

But it seems appropriate that l4angus would know............

:roll: :roll: :roll:
My apologies Cherokee
For not mentioniing you as one of the ladies that some of us men can learn plenty about raising cattle from. I am sure I have overlooked others too. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
 

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