HDRider
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I wonder why it such a rare crossVery tender they have longevity with little to no udder issues.
Both jerseys and brimmer are long lifespan cattle.
I wonder why it such a rare crossVery tender they have longevity with little to no udder issues.
Both jerseys and brimmer are long lifespan cattle.
J&J has them pretty regular.I wonder why it such a rare cross
Are your SimAngus larger than the Charolais?The SimAngus make a lot of milk, and are too big, and eat too much.
I would run Charolais mamma cows with an Angus bull.
I don't think soAre your SimAngus larger than the Charolais?
I am running Charolais/Angus cross mamma's with a Simmental Bull and so far I am pleased.
J&J has them pretty regular.
I know Buffalo and Crockett salebarn have a special sale from time to time.
I thought that the average was 7% of the cow weight?An 1100 lb cow should be able to have a 110 lb calf unassisted if it is built right. Most of ours are born 85 to 100 lbs. We do use ligh be bulls on heifers and the next year.
NoCB, do you know of anywhere that has them raised on fescue.
I'm going to have a few of them somehow. Maybe the new tests will help
It might be, I know colder winters bring bigger calves.I thought that the average was 7% of the cow weight?
This proves you can tell a Texan but not tell them much.Sorry I'm having a hard time following you. Suggesting that breeding heifers later made them wild threw me for a loop and apparently I never caught back up.
@gcreekrch @faster horsesAs for getting them bigger before calving, early on we calved a bunch of heifers that calved their first calf at 3 years old. They were big and wild which made them hard to handle. They didn't want anything to do with a calf.
I agree on that as we calve in Feb and see more weight. Not a problem as long as you watch calf shape in sires. Same genetics in summer and fall herds can drop 15 to 20 pounds off of calves. The problem with heavier calves that are born easily is buyer rejection. They like them when they see them as adults but there is such a fad of low BW that they look elsewhere. For growth and commercial, it is hard to beat a stout calf at birth. A real calving ease bull can sire vigorous calves but I do not think that includes the pseudo-calving ease curvebender bulls. Shorten the gestation period too much and you need neonatal efforts.It might be, I know colder winters bring bigger calves.
Could they take the cold?I'm going to have a few of them somehow. Maybe the new tests will help
Agreed. There are a lot of people with cattle in the warmer regions that will sacrifice performance for ease of calving as their herds are pretty much left on their own. Not the case here. We don't want problems but are in attendance if they arise and have the ability to look after them. Most Angus breeders here will start to see resistance at 95 lbs.I agree on that as we calve in Feb and see more weight. Not a problem as long as you watch calf shape in sires. Same genetics in summer and fall herds can drop 15 to 20 pounds off of calves. The problem with heavier calves that are born easily is buyer rejection. They like them when they see them as adults but there is such a fad of low BW that they look elsewhere. For growth and commercial, it is hard to beat a stout calf at birth. A real calving ease bull can sire vigorous calves but I do not think that includes the pseudo-calving ease curvebender bulls. Shorten the gestation period too much and you need neonatal efforts.
I have never seen any difference in calf weights because of feed. Have seen calves born early or full term and weak because of malnutrition.Weight on newborn calves can come from caloric intake of the cows during the last 60 days of pregnancy.
Cattle need more feed in cold weather to to withstand its effects and some of the extra fuel to keep the
cow warm goes into calf. (If) you are supplementing hay with grain you may want to consider withdrawing
the grain or any high caloric mix during the last 30 days of pregnancy,
[Not sure the source on this but I am thinking it may have came from the North Dakota Cattle Research several
years ago.] I do not calve in cold weather but when I did I would go to nothing but grass hay in the last 30 days
and had no more problems with large calves] Your mileage may vary
No clue but I had a few pure Brahama 30 years ago and they done fine. Had a couple beefmaster also and they done great.Could they take the cold?
I've seen a couple breeding them in the east Texas area-the new "premium" cow cross apparentlyDid you get them from J&J? I have been thinking about getting something from them, just wondering how they are to deal with. I see they lease bulls as well, might be what I do when the time comes.
I got some local and a couple in the picture from J&J.
Have three grandkids that are livestock judges they love the cross for commercial.