wbvs58 said:I can't make out anything from the photos.
Ken
Yeh but you keep showing photos of his right side.MurraysMutts said:Sorry guys. These are terrible pictures. I'll try and get a better picture this evening. Hopefully hes settling in.
I dont think it's an injection site. It's almost a hump behind his left shoulder up high. Kinda like a brahma hump only further back and not near as tall. Left side. Like left of his spine.
I almost think he was laying down and some idiot cow tried to walk over him and stepped on him.
He came in with a big load of others. Hes the discount puppy
MurraysMutts said:Sorry guys. These are terrible pictures. I'll try and get a better picture this evening. Hopefully hes settling in.
I dont think it's an injection site. It's almost a hump behind his left shoulder up high. Kinda like a brahma hump only further back and not near as tall. Left side. Like left of his spine.
I almost think he was laying down and some idiot cow tried to walk over him and stepped on him.
He came in with a big load of others. Hes the discount puppy
gcreekrch said:MurraysMutts said:Sorry guys. These are terrible pictures. I'll try and get a better picture this evening. Hopefully hes settling in.
I dont think it's an injection site. It's almost a hump behind his left shoulder up high. Kinda like a brahma hump only further back and not near as tall. Left side. Like left of his spine.
I almost think he was laying down and some idiot cow tried to walk over him and stepped on him.
He came in with a big load of others. Hes the discount puppy
I give a lot of vaccinations in the loose hide over the ribs and behind the shoulder. Much easier when they are lined up in the alley than the neck.
SBMF 2015 said:gcreekrch said:MurraysMutts said:Sorry guys. These are terrible pictures. I'll try and get a better picture this evening. Hopefully hes settling in.
I dont think it's an injection site. It's almost a hump behind his left shoulder up high. Kinda like a brahma hump only further back and not near as tall. Left side. Like left of his spine.
I almost think he was laying down and some idiot cow tried to walk over him and stepped on him.
He came in with a big load of others. Hes the discount puppy
I give a lot of vaccinations in the loose hide over the ribs and behind the shoulder. Much easier when they are lined up in the alley than the neck.
I don't remember that vaccination technic in the BQA hand book.
Yes, chronic calves can and do get needle sore, but that is no reason to routinely vaccinate cattle wrong. BQA or not, those vaccines are not designed to go behind the shoulder.
I alley vaccinate all the time. Cow, calves and every inbetween. Sub Q in the neck. That's where vaccinations go.
MurraysMutts said:Sorry guys. These are terrible pictures. I'll try and get a better picture this evening. Hopefully hes settling in.
I dont think it's an injection site. It's almost a hump behind his left shoulder up high. Kinda like a brahma hump only further back and not near as tall. Left side. Like left of his spine.
I almost think he was laying down and some idiot cow tried to walk over him and stepped on him.
He came in with a big load of others. Hes the discount puppy
gcreekrch said:SBMF 2015 said:gcreekrch said:I give a lot of vaccinations in the loose hide over the ribs and behind the shoulder. Much easier when they are lined up in the alley than the neck.
I don't remember that vaccination technic in the BQA hand book.
Yes, chronic calves can and do get needle sore, but that is no reason to routinely vaccinate cattle wrong. BQA or not, those vaccines are not designed to go behind the shoulder.
I alley vaccinate all the time. Cow, calves and every inbetween. Sub Q in the neck. That's where vaccinations go.
Sub Q is Sub Q. The reason for the neck area is apparently because of more blood flow there. Have had this discussion with several vets and their opinion is the same. Sub Q is Sub Q.
A lot of idiots are still giving injections and vaccinations in the rump " because you can't see a lump when given there".
SBMF 2015 said:gcreekrch said:SBMF 2015 said:I don't remember that vaccination technic in the BQA hand book.
Yes, chronic calves can and do get needle sore, but that is no reason to routinely vaccinate cattle wrong. BQA or not, those vaccines are not designed to go behind the shoulder.
I alley vaccinate all the time. Cow, calves and every inbetween. Sub Q in the neck. That's where vaccinations go.
Sub Q is Sub Q. The reason for the neck area is apparently because of more blood flow there. Have had this discussion with several vets and their opinion is the same. Sub Q is Sub Q.
A lot of idiots are still giving injections and vaccinations in the rump " because you can't see a lump when given there".
Yeah, and I've seen good Ol' boy vets give Nuflor behind the ribs! Or the local vet that used to grind sulfa tabs in the blender then add water to make injectable sulfa. Just because you can doesn't mean that it's right.
Sub Q, so you always use a 5/8" 16ga needle? Unless you are tenting the hide anything longer will be a deeper injection than Sub Q.