lithuanian farmer said:Haven't used double muscled charolais myself, but know some people, who use AI, or run a bull. People like them over here(in some EU countries). They can be easier calved than traditional charolais, smaller bones, higher kill-out, producing quality calves. Very good choice to get heavily muscled weanlings. They're not for everyone's taste and needs thought.
x 2frieghttrain said:Nadda not a fan of dm in any breed.
TennesseeTuxedo said:Wrong.
lithuanian farmer said:The situation is pretty similar with almost all breeds in US going black and many breeds bred to have DM in EU... :hide:
gaurus said:lithuanian farmer said:The situation is pretty similar with almost all breeds in US going black and many breeds bred to have DM in EU... :hide:
USA and Japan value Highly Marbled beef
European Union countries favor Lean Healthy beef, they also use these type of extreme bulls on dairy cows to produce feeder calves for the EU export market.
True, but nobody is advocating that right? I would say that breeding for extreme terminal sires is what will happen as the world requirements for high protein beef increases.lithuanian farmer said:But breeding most breeds to be double muscled is very wrong.
Couldn't have said it any better! That's not saying much though :dunce: . I like muscling but taking anything to an extreme is really never a good idea there will always be con's in this case longer than avg time to finish feeding out and increased calving difficulty and like you said loss of breed character.lithuanian farmer said:gaurus said:lithuanian farmer said:The situation is pretty similar with almost all breeds in US going black and many breeds bred to have DM in EU... :hide:
USA and Japan value Highly Marbled beef
European Union countries favor Lean Healthy beef, they also use these type of extreme bulls on dairy cows to produce feeder calves for the EU export market.
But breeding most breeds to be double muscled is very wrong. Many don't like it. Breeds are loosing calving ease and their unique traits.
The market requires good finished animals with a nice fat layer here too. Very extreme bulls will be too heavy at the time they'll have that needed fat grade.
lithuanian farmer said:The situation is pretty similar with almost all breeds in US going black and many breeds bred to have DM in EU... :hide:
DM Charolais mainly are used on Salers and Aubrac cows. A normal charolais works well on those types of cows, but with DM they get abit less bone and more muscles. Calves are mostly sold as weanlings for export.
From what I've heard from other farmers, DM charolais isn't very liked breed in France, where it actually was developed.
Also DM charolais used to have some problems with their legs. It might have been improved now, but have seen many xbred offspring with very bad legs.
WalnutCrest said:Per my French friends, the bottom third (ish) if a registered Aubrac herd is bred to DM Charolais bulls for a branded beef product called Fleur d'Aubrac (the rest if the herds are covered by Aubrac bulls). It's a seasonal product; animals are harvested between 19-24 months of age. The beef sells out very quickly.
And, even with that headwind, Aubracs still lead all French breeds in calving ease ...