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I thought they were more tongue-in-cheek than anything else. Their flag didn't hold nearly the power ten years ago that it holds now.

In recent times, that flag has been used more boldly by people who hate for stupid reasons. I don't think it was sensitive people worried about the flag or the band. I think they were worried about those few in every public crowd who would use the symbols to encourage their own brand of hate. No one wants fights in a crowd of people just trying to enjoy a show. CR is probably having trouble booking gigs these days because of the ugly shadow of politics.

Interestingly, did you know that the confederate flag was not seen outside of a museum for many years after the civil war? It began appearing more and more in public during a backlash against civil rights in the 1950s and 60s. it crops up when tempers flare and is used in marches and public demonstrations to divide us.
 
Little Cow said:
I thought they were more tongue-in-cheek than anything else. Their flag didn't hold nearly the power ten years ago that it holds now.

In recent times, that flag has been used more boldly by people who hate for stupid reasons. I don't think it was sensitive people worried about the flag or the band. I think they were worried about those few in every public crowd who would use the symbols to encourage their own brand of hate. No one wants fights in a crowd of people just trying to enjoy a show. CR is probably having trouble booking gigs these days because of the ugly shadow of politics.

Interestingly, did you know that the confederate flag was not seen outside of a museum for many years after the civil war? It began appearing more and more in public during a backlash against civil rights in the 1950s and 60s. it crops up when tempers flare and is used in marches and public demonstrations to divide us.
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Thoughtful and objective. Thanks.
 
Little Cow said:
I thought they were more tongue-in-cheek than anything else. Their flag didn't hold nearly the power ten years ago that it holds now.

In recent times, that flag has been used more boldly by people who hate for stupid reasons. I don't think it was sensitive people worried about the flag or the band. I think they were worried about those few in every public crowd who would use the symbols to encourage their own brand of hate. No one wants fights in a crowd of people just trying to enjoy a show. CR is probably having trouble booking gigs these days because of the ugly shadow of politics.

Interestingly, did you know that the confederate flag was not seen outside of a museum for many years after the civil war? It began appearing more and more in public during a backlash against civil rights in the 1950s and 60s. it crops up when tempers flare and is used in marches and public demonstrations to divide us.
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Your not from the South apparently,we have been loud and proud with the battle flag forever.
This ruled Texas politics through the Johnson administration.
Reconstruction and states rights have kept that ideological set of beliefs alive and well.
This goes back to Born Fighting by Senator Webb good read and educational.
https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/wfj01

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_Fighting
 
Being from the South and being from Texas appear to be entirely different things. :lol:

I will definitely plead ignorance about Texas. I'm not at all familiar with Texas culture. I only spent a few days in Amarillo. I really enjoyed it there, but it doesn't really count. What was that slogan you guys had a while back? "Texas: It's a whole 'nother country". :hat:

Most of us in these other Southern states just want to get along with our neighbors. Many of those neighbors are black and friends of ours. Should I fly that flag on my own property? I have ancestors who were so mad after the North ransacked their small farm that they sent everyone but the dog to fight on the Confederate side, but why fly it now? The flag was only seen at memorials, in museums, and at a few state houses (also, as a memorial) until the 1950s and 1960s. In that era, it was purposely flown to oppose civil rights. Versions of it are still used by white supremacists. That, more recent history, is what causes all the trouble. So, why should I fly something that scares other people's kids? I understand why some folks in charge of a crowded concert venue would be nervous about a bunch of confederate flags right now. Sadly, supremacists feel empowered in the current climate.
 
Little Cow said:
Being from the South and being from Texas appear to be entirely different things. :lol:

I will definitely plead ignorance about Texas. I'm not at all familiar with Texas culture. I only spent a few days in Amarillo. I really enjoyed it there, but it doesn't really count. What was that slogan you guys had a while back? "Texas: It's a whole 'nother country". :hat:

Most of us in these other Southern states just want to get along with our neighbors. Many of those neighbors are black and friends of ours. Should I fly that flag on my own property? I have ancestors who were so mad after the North ransacked their small farm that they sent everyone but the dog to fight on the Confederate side, but why fly it now? The flag was only seen at memorials, in museums, and at a few state houses (also, as a memorial) until the 1950s and 1960s. In that era, it was purposely flown to oppose civil rights. Versions of it are still used by white supremacists. That, more recent history, is what causes all the trouble. So, why should I fly something that scares other people's kids?
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That's a silly question why fly it now.
It's called heritage. Tell there kids to hit the road IMO what I fly is my right.
If they are offended I don't give a piece of monkey dung nor do I for any of the PC crowd.
 
That heritage thing works both directions. Lots of people that argue for their own heritage gripe and moan about other people publicly displaying their own (and different) heritage.

Tressy Capps of Ontario, California says she's was annoyed to see a woman flying the Mexican flag in her front yard. So Capps grabbed a camera, recorded a video of her confronting the woman and posted the clip on YouTube.

"You know we live in America, right? This is the United States. So, why are you flying a Mexican flag in your front yard," you hear Capps ask as a woman at the home. "This is America. Maybe you can move to Mexico if you want to fly your Mexican flag. Does that make sense?"
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https://mynorthwest.com/91300/why-seattle-wont-do-american-flag-themed-crosswalks/

https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/South-Vietnam-flag-won-t-fly-in-Oakland-Brown-2612351.php

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/jeanine-pirro-ilhan-omar-806293/
 
greybeard said:
That heritage thing works both directions. Lots of people that argue for their own heritage gripe and moan about other people publicly displaying their own (and different) heritage.

Tressy Capps of Ontario, California says she's was annoyed to see a woman flying the Mexican flag in her front yard. So Capps grabbed a camera, recorded a video of her confronting the woman and posted the clip on YouTube.

"You know we live in America, right? This is the United States. So, why are you flying a Mexican flag in your front yard," you hear Capps ask as a woman at the home. "This is America. Maybe you can move to Mexico if you want to fly your Mexican flag. Does that make sense?"
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https://mynorthwest.com/91300/why-seattle-wont-do-american-flag-themed-crosswalks/

https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/South-Vietnam-flag-won-t-fly-in-Oakland-Brown-2612351.php

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/jeanine-pirro-ilhan-omar-806293/
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GB what you fly on your property is your right! If you want to wear it as underwear is your right. I will defend that with you. What you don't have is the right to tell me what I can wave in the air.
The flag of Mexico flew over Texas before the Lone Star, Stars and Stripes or the Stars and Bars. Lots of heritage to go around except for the PC crowd.
Your not truly free if you don't have the right to burn the symbol of our country no matter how repulsive it might be to some. You have the right to be offensive and I have the right to be offended that's as far as it goes both ways or we truly don't have liberty.
The irony to it all is people want to get up in arms over the Confederate Battle Flag part of America's heritage.
There not upset the government is putting them in pens everyday through identity politics. It's only okay to identify with what is PC today.
 
I guess if one wants to burn the flag then that's their right. But it sure sends a bad message. And while I agree it's their right, I still don't think it's ok. If I hated my country that bad then I'd have to live somewhere else.
 
JMJ Farms said:
I guess if one wants to burn the flag then that's their right. But it sure sends a bad message. And while I agree it's their right, I still don't think it's ok. If I hated my country that bad then I'd have to live somewhere else.
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The post wasn't about flag burning but freedom and the rights the freedoms that come with those rights. That was why Madison wrote the 1st Amendment.
Those very rights are under attack today by the PC crowd.

https://www.thoughtco.com/who-wrote-the-first-amendment-721180
 
JMJ Farms said:
I guess if one wants to burn the flag then that's their right. But it sure sends a bad message. And while I agree it's their right, I still don't think it's ok. If I hated my country that bad then I'd have to live somewhere else.
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The only real US flags have embroidered stars and each stripe is a separate piece sewn together. They are made in the US and that's what you fly on a flagpole or use in a parade. As a veteran, I remove my hat or salute when it passes. When I see knuckleheads burning a flag, it's always a cheap printed 'Made in China' flag. If you want to burn that, knock yourselves out.
 
Caustic Burno said:
JMJ Farms said:
I guess if one wants to burn the flag then that's their right. But it sure sends a bad message. And while I agree it's their right, I still don't think it's ok. If I hated my country that bad then I'd have to live somewhere else.
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Those very rights are under attack today by the PC crowd.
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Is this really true? You still have the right to wave any flag you want, burn any flag you want, and say whatever you want. Other people also have the right to tell you how they really feel about it.

40 years ago, nobody would have thought twice about a confederate flag being waved at a public event, but a rainbow flag would have drawn as much moaning and wailing as the confederate flag does today. Our rights aren't changing, just public opinion. You happen to not like it because your opinion is becoming the minority where it was once the majority.

I'm not sure this is a new development, either. Younger generations have probably been offended by older generations and annoyed them with "PC" culture since the beginning of time.
 
Buck Randall said:
Caustic Burno said:
JMJ Farms said:
I guess if one wants to burn the flag then that's their right. But it sure sends a bad message. And while I agree it's their right, I still don't think it's ok. If I hated my country that bad then I'd have to live somewhere else.
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Those very rights are under attack today by the PC crowd.
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Is this really true? You still have the right to wave any flag you want, burn any flag you want, and say whatever you want. Other people also have the right to tell you how they really feel about it.

40 years ago, nobody would have thought twice about a confederate flag being waved at a public event, but a rainbow flag would have drawn as much moaning and wailing as the confederate flag does today. Our rights aren't changing, just public opinion. You happen to not like it because your opinion is becoming the minority where it was once the majority.

I'm not sure this is a new development, either. Younger generations have probably been offended by older generations and annoyed them with "PC" culture since the beginning of time.
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You really need to go to your local Ace Hardware and purchase a head puller.
Your no TB, better stay in your intellectual lane when it comes to history. The shoulder of the road.
Fifty years ago we weren't trying to erase or rewrite history as the events didn't exist too fit a narrative we liked.
We were actually still being taught history by men that fought the below mentioned socialist.
It's like the irony of one group calling another Nazis and saying they are socialists.
This is the ignorance of not knowing your history Nazis were socialist.
 
Caustic Burno said:
You really need to go to your local Ace Hardware and purchase a head puller.
Your no TB better stay in your intellectual lane when it comes to history. The shoulder of the road.
Fifty years ago we weren't trying to erase or rewrite history as the events didn't exist too fit a narrative we liked.
We were actually still being taught history by men that fought the below mentioned socialist.
It's like the irony of one group calling another Nazis and saying they are socialists.
This is the ignorance of not knowing your history Nazis were socialist.
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aw, CB, 50 years ago only one group was writing the history, not erasing or rewriting it. problem is they were only writing their perspective and leaving out most everybody else.
 
Most of our history was written by the party of slavery, founders of the KKK, wrote the Jim Crow laws along with passed the poll tax. The same group caused more American causalities than all other wars combined. They have always had a dark agenda.
No the socialist aren't new just the handle they are hiding behind.

Had the aforementioned party not been in a power struggle Lincoln would have never been elected.
We have fought two civil wars for power and money the third is on the horizon.

Little history. They ran three candidates in their fight for power losing what they lusted for.
Lincoln's motives weren't altruistic either.
"A third group of Democrats formed the Constitutional Union Party and selected John Bell as their presidential candidate. Because the Democratic vote was spread so thin, Republican Abraham Lincoln defeated Douglas, Breckenridge, and Bell in the 1860 presidential election."
 

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