Chinese Flu ?

[Stocker Steve]

Sounds like SARS killed up to 10% of the people who caught it. Any idea how hot this new corona flu is? Have you stocked up on face masks and meds?

 

[Lucky_P]

Saw a medical professional on TV last night. 7000 deaths due to regular old influenza in the USA in the past 4 months...only 17 deaths attributed to the novel coronavirus so far.
Reports I've seen on the ProMed list indicate that most of the coronavirus deaths so far are older individuals with preexisting conditions like Type II diabetes, renal insufficiency, etc.
Time will tell.

 

[Redgully]

Looks nasty but it sounds like it only has a five day incubation period so they may be able to stop it. I heard it probably came from a snake, how weird is that, a cold blooded animal. No cases in Australia yet but with 3 or 4000 people arriving from China weekly that wont last long.

 

[Aaron]

Sounds like SARS killed up to 10% of the people who caught it. Any idea how hot this new corona flu is? Have you stocked up on face masks and meds?

Plywood and bullets. Board up the house and shoot anyone who comes down the driveway. We are to that point right?


Nah, it's a good thing. Think of it as a toilet flush to the system. Get public refocused on something that can kill them vs. Climate Change. I am big supporter of pandemics in today's world. :banana:

Icing on the cake would be if it all originated from an Impossible Burger made in China.

 

[Stocker Steve]

Always cook mystery meat. :nod:

Must be hard times in the Chinese meat market with both snakes and pigs having the flu.

 

[ccr]

News report shows this picture of China building a new hospital in 10 days:

But the picture shows excavators scratching the ground like a bunch of chickens and people who view it are supposed to believe they are hard at work on this new construction.

Don't think the picture represents on how construction would start on a new facility.:roll:

 

[Redgully]

Now they say it came from a bat. There is pictures of Chinese eating live baby mice and cooked bats. Two cases confirmed in Australia now.

 

[greybeard]

News report shows this picture of China building a new hospital in 10 days:

But the picture shows excavators scratching the ground like a bunch of chickens and people who view it are supposed to believe they are hard at work on this new construction.

Don't think the picture represents on how construction would start on a new facility.:roll:

You ever seen a highschool here in the US, where temporary modular classrooms are brought in and placed next to each other while the real school building is being built?
Same thing.

They built one during the SARS outbreak in 6 days. All that is needed is the ground leveled and drainage & electrical put in. These are modular hospitals that are already built, and just have to be trucked to a destination and individual units assembled next to each other. Designed to go up in short timeframe in case of war or natural disaster. They aren't like our hospitals.
The Red Cross has several of these type hospitals that can be sent anywhere by container ship, trucked to a pad and put together is short order. So does our military.

You can actually buy one of these hospitals on Alibaba and Indiamart.
https://www.indiamart.com/proddetail/prefabricated-hospitals-11391250555.html

The Reds excel at this type thing, because they have:
1. Unlimited labor source.
2. Don't have to have any environmental studies done.
3. Don't have to meet any codes except what the Central Govt in Bejeng says and all they said in this instance was "Do it."
4. Doesn't need to have all the amenities our hospitals have and that we have come to expect.
5. Cost is not a concern.

China is building a dedicated Wuhan pneumonia hospital in just 6 days: report
Authorities in China are reportedly planning to build a dedicated pneumonia hospital in Wuhan to help treat the hundreds of people affected by the deadly coronavirus in that city.

According to the Beijing News, a state-backed newspaper, the hospital will be a prefabricated, box-type model that can be built in six days. A design plan will be released on Friday, the paper said, with construction due to begin soon afterward in Wuhan's southwestern Caidian District.

Xinhua said the new facility was aimed at “alleviating the shortage of medical treatment resources and improving the ability to care for patients”.

“We’ve mobilised all the workers left in Wuhan to work in shifts to ensure round-the-clock construction,” said Zhang Chongxi, manager of building group Wuhan Construction, according to Xinhua.

In 2003 China erected a hospital on Beijing’s rural outskirts in barely a week to cater to a rapidly rising number of patients suffering from SARS, or Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, which killed 349 people in mainland China and 299 in Hong Kong in 2002-2003.

Xiaotangshan Hospital consisted of prefabricated structures and Xinhua reported on Friday that Wuhan was building the new facility based on the same model.

 

[greybeard]

They're building 2 different hospitals. One has 1500 workers working on it, the 2nd has 2000.
The 1st will be in operation Feb3 with 1000 beds, the 2nd will be staffed and treating patients Feb 5 with 1300 beds. They better hurry..currently, right at 2000 people have the virus in Hunan.

new coronavirus hospitals explained

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

This could get ugly.

 

[Redgully]

Seems it had spread to lots of countries now. Must have been around for a while. Hopefully they have a cure soon.

 

[greybeard]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-wuhans-new-hospitals-rising-fast-to-meet-deadly-viruss-threat-11920192
Them chickens been busy.

 

[Stocker Steve]

Do they have Obama care there?

 

[Redgully]

Do they have Obama care there?

No, only a roaring body parts trade.

 

[theunwinder]

We should be on alert but no need to panic just yet. I hope this fades as quickly as SARS, Swine Flu, etc etc.

 

[Richnm]

I read an article that The Corona virus is Chinese Chemical warfare, somehow it leaked in to the population.

 

[Redgully]

I was reading an article today that was saying pretty much all the people who have died had underlying health problems. Healthy people just get a bit of a temperature and run down and then bounce back. There is something nasty coming one day in the future and they know it, that is why they go into panic mode with these outbreaks. Good dress rehearsals for quarantine and containment for when that day comes.

 

[greybeard]

I was reading an article today that was saying pretty much all the people who have died had underlying health problems. Healthy people just get a bit of a temperature and run down and then bounce back. There is something nasty coming one day in the future and they know it, that is why they go into panic mode with these outbreaks. Good dress rehearsals for quarantine and containment for when that day comes.

I suppose that is comforting to hear, if one is young and healthy, has no young children or elderly friends or family members. Here's what it's really saying tho, and why there is such a push to keep it contained:

" Healthy people just get a bit of a temperature and run down and then bounce back." ........after being infectious and potentially spreading it around to their parents, infants and those with other underlying health problems and to other healthy people to to become infectious and potentially spread it to THEIR parents, infants etc etc.."

If a given society is 'ok' with killing off their weak, elderly, sick, and very young, then I suppose they would just let it run it's course but not even China with a 1 billion population is callous enough to do that.

One thing I haven't read anything about, is whether it can survive in other hosts, such as livestock. Supposedly came from bats or snakes, but what other animal can be a host? Can you imagine the panic and economic debacle if it gets into the Western or even Asian food chain?

 

[ccr]

I read an article that The Corona virus is Chinese Chemical warfare, somehow it leaked in to the population.

I read it was from Corona beer.

 

[Redgully]

I was reading an article today that was saying pretty much all the people who have died had underlying health problems. Healthy people just get a bit of a temperature and run down and then bounce back. There is something nasty coming one day in the future and they know it, that is why they go into panic mode with these outbreaks. Good dress rehearsals for quarantine and containment for when that day comes.

I suppose that is comforting to hear, if one is young and healthy, has no young children or elderly friends or family members. Here's what it's really saying tho, and why there is such a push to keep it contained:

" Healthy people just get a bit of a temperature and run down and then bounce back." ........after being infectious and potentially spreading it around to their parents, infants and those with other underlying health problems and to other healthy people to to become infectious and potentially spread it to THEIR parents, infants etc etc.."

If a given society is 'ok' with killing off their weak, elderly, sick, and very young, then I suppose they would just let it run it's course but not even China with a 1 billion population is callous enough to do that.

One thing I haven't read anything about, is whether it can survive in other hosts, such as livestock. Supposedly came from bats or snakes, but what other animal can be a host? Can you imagine the panic and economic debacle if it gets into the Western or even Asian food chain?

Well that was an interesting post from you.....there are more gun deaths every day in the U.S. alone than what this virus has killed.

I'm not saying im ok with it, just saying it is not the bad one that is coming that will take out healthy and unhealthy. Something like the plague.

Measles came from cattle, jumped to us but seemed to stop there. This is not an uncommon occurrence. They believe they will be trialing a vaccine by August and will be available by early 2021.