That is what I like about those Black Simm x Chi-Angus calves. To me, many Simms look like a weenie dog or Basset hound...;legs too short. The Chi-Angus put some legs on those calves. Clay and I have bought 20 of the heifers the breeder will wean in July. I will send some pics or video when we get them. 10 BS x C-A and 10 C-A x BS. He will have 20 more of each when they calve in January.
Yes, I agree there are some Simmentals I don’t like too for that very reason, there’s a lot of Angus and Herefords like that too.
When Clay started helping the man July 4th weekend, I had to go up the 2nd day and carry Clay a horse. His ( well actually it was mine, too) had thrown a shoe and tore a chunk out of the hoof. The man had a couple of 2 year old heifers he had not sold, and had bred them to a black BM bull. The calves were born in April and there wasn't a one of them under 400 lbs at a little over 3 months old. This is the guy that gives you a copy of the sire and dam's papers with the calves. He started breeding these to be terminal ( with steers..he will NOT sell a bull calf. He believes like me about cross bred bulls.) Some of these calves, steers and heifers, get sold for show calves, but he sells the heifers for replacements and advises them to breed them to a third breed for a terminal cross. Those BeefMaster calves were growing machines. Clay plans on breeding ours to a Brangus. Only thing I would not breed to would be a Sim or a Chi-Angus. I bet Hereford would work well on them if you didn't want any ear. Or Charolais if you don't mind the "color doc". You could probably stand on the porch and watch those Charolais calves growing! He used to sell his steer calves at auction, and they always bring top dollar. When we went up there in July, he had about an even split, heifer and bull calves. But he had AI'ed the cows with sexed semen back in March., so they will all be heifer calves next month. Clay wants all steers, and has a tank of straws of sexed semen from one the Salacoa Valley Farm's top Brangus sires. I told him the other day though, that I want to breed 4 of them..2 of each cross..to a polled grey Brahma , sexed for heifers. If I am around that long, I am curious to see how those half-Brahmas would do with a Hereford or Black Herford bull. But that would be...what...2028?
I thought you liked them short and fat. Lol
That says a lot right there. It seems like the registered cattle trends are getting away from what the cow/calf producers need.
Im ok with the cow being a shorter frame and easy keeping. 4's might be a little short for me. A good 6.5 frame bull can make it work. Add frame from 1 bull instead of 30 cows.
As long as processors are wanting 13/1400 pound finishing weights the 6/7 frame size will be the most realistic size cow.
"Peter Sterling." First prize 2-yr-old Angus bull, 1905 American Royal, Kansas City. A trim, muscular-appearing bull. Peter Sterling looks exactly like my bull I'm running...w/thin back-end legs...he's quite the mounter and breeder. Appears I'm running what was considered the top 1905 bull on my farm.
I agree, shorter frame easy keeping cows are fine. Problem is that when those kind of females are being produced, the bull mates are that too. Even with outliers within the same breed their calves tend to go back towards the smaller
I agree with you that it takes those kind of cattle to get the kind of calves the buyers pay the most for. What I don’t understand is why the registered side is doubling down on decreasing frame when it’s detrimental to their commercial customers.
I've never understood how the show circuit influences how breeders define perfection in animals. It's the same for registered dogs and other animals. The judges have some kind of weird image of what they are looking for and they trade information and land on some kind of flawed "new" concept, and then the breeders toe the line so they can win ribbons and sell breeding stock that supposed to be the "new thing". In the meantime a lot of commercially oriented people follow along and are destroyed if the concept isn't economically productive. Meanwhile the people that only concentrate on what the packers want are derided for having "old style" cattle but they are selling their animals just fine for good prices.
