HDRider
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Dave said:
The price was established by using the average of the three closest sale barns that publish prices. The two closest barns do not even post prices any longer.
Calves sold well
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The price was established by using the average of the three closest sale barns that publish prices. The two closest barns do not even post prices any longer.
HDRider
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gcreekrch said:
These were beautiful black Angus. Shots, full boat.
HDRider
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Read 'em and weep
https://www.ams.usda.gov/market-news/feeder-and-replacement-cattle-auctions?fbclid=IwAR1awRxZNQJqJznoMs_l7ScFv_rdDe8aRSTTYAHZ9g5zGO9IptSMJc5OuDM#Arkansas
https://www.ams.usda.gov/market-news/feeder-and-replacement-cattle-auctions?fbclid=IwAR1awRxZNQJqJznoMs_l7ScFv_rdDe8aRSTTYAHZ9g5zGO9IptSMJc5OuDM#Arkansas
HDRider
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Where are you?gcreekrch said:
Stocker Steve
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Loonies
HDRider
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So $2.35 CD is $1.79 USD
Do they regulate the sales price of beef in Canada? Like they do dairy
Do they regulate the sales price of beef in Canada? Like they do dairy
Dave
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HDRider said:
I don't believe they regulate cattle prices in Canada but I will leave that to the Canadians. I have seen steer calves at 400 pounds sell for over $1.80 in Oregon this week.
HDRider said:
The socialists have been talking about beef marketing boards in Canada for 40 years. So far the cowboys have kept them out.
This is just our market, we still get screwed by the packers just like you folks do.
Stocker Steve
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HDRider Do they regulate the sales price of beef in Canada? Like they do dairy [/quote said:
HDRider
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Stocker Steve said:
I guess it is payback. Giant US farms decimated small 3rd world farmers
midTN_Brangusman
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Sounds like a good time to unload the cows and go to a stocker operation :2cents:
callmefence
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HDRider said:
Selling peewees in mid October....here's your sign... :dunce:
I'll let your man corbit explain.
https://youtu.be/WkRx29B4EXo
farmerjan
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Those prices for that sized calves was not that bad considering. That's more than they are bringing here. Heifers in the $.90 to 1.15 range and steers in the 1.10to 1.40's. From 350 to 6 wts. I do think they will be up some in the spring, not huge gains, but a bit better. And the weaned and somewhat heavier ones will bring near the same per lb as the lighter ones so weight gain will be a plus if it doesn't cost too much to get the gain.
I look for 2021 to be a better year for prices. The lack of calves from this past years flooding and cattle loss up in the midwest will be catching up with lower cattle numbers. The farmers just getting tired and having sold out will also add to the lower numbers. I also think that the bred cow market will take a slight upward move.
Also, I do think that there will be more demand. If we don't get the deal worked out with China, and I honestly don't trust them as far as I could throw them, then they will get their needs met elsewhere.... but that will open us up to other markets looking for beef because they cannot find it if China has that all sewn up. I am sure not an expert, but I think that if we can hold on a bit, it will get a LITTLE better. But I don't foresee anything like we saw back in the 2011-2014 years, and if there isn't something figured out with the packer control, then I really do see where we will be at the mercy of them and the beef industry will be going the way of the hogs and chickens. Sure there will be smaller ones that will cater to a niche market, and we will need them if there is too much foreign control, as we might be at the mercy of others for food. So much contract stuff, and them dictating what they want....
Hope that I am right about the uptick in prices, and wrong about that there will be more foreign control/strangulation of our food supply sources. I have told people for years that there will come the day, where we are "owned" by foreign "investors" and they will grab us by the balls and say, okay, we control the food, so you will do as we say..... I think sadly it is closer than many think.
I look for 2021 to be a better year for prices. The lack of calves from this past years flooding and cattle loss up in the midwest will be catching up with lower cattle numbers. The farmers just getting tired and having sold out will also add to the lower numbers. I also think that the bred cow market will take a slight upward move.
Also, I do think that there will be more demand. If we don't get the deal worked out with China, and I honestly don't trust them as far as I could throw them, then they will get their needs met elsewhere.... but that will open us up to other markets looking for beef because they cannot find it if China has that all sewn up. I am sure not an expert, but I think that if we can hold on a bit, it will get a LITTLE better. But I don't foresee anything like we saw back in the 2011-2014 years, and if there isn't something figured out with the packer control, then I really do see where we will be at the mercy of them and the beef industry will be going the way of the hogs and chickens. Sure there will be smaller ones that will cater to a niche market, and we will need them if there is too much foreign control, as we might be at the mercy of others for food. So much contract stuff, and them dictating what they want....
Hope that I am right about the uptick in prices, and wrong about that there will be more foreign control/strangulation of our food supply sources. I have told people for years that there will come the day, where we are "owned" by foreign "investors" and they will grab us by the balls and say, okay, we control the food, so you will do as we say..... I think sadly it is closer than many think.
skyhightree1
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farmerjan said:
I wish I shared your optimism but I just don't see it in the cards anytime soon.
farmerjan
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Sky, I'm saying a LITTLE better, not a lot better. I don't see any real great uptick, certainly nothing like what we saw several years ago. But I think there will be somewhat of an increase, just due to supply being less than demand.
I think this "FAKE MEAT", regardless of what name it goes by, will get a foothold just like the different "milks" that have taken a portion of the dairy supply circle. I also think that as the actual cost of production gets passed around, for this FAKE MEAT, there might be some backlash. Plus, stop and think about all the people today who are developing "allergies" to things like wheat/gluten, peanut butter and such. We are not designed to consume plants in that quantity, and we will not evolve to do so in one or two generations. There may be more people who find that it will be intolerable to consume all this fake stuff. That will also have an impact on some of it. And if there are so many that are so gung ho about organic.... then they will not be able to eat some of this "fake stuff".....
A friend recently said to me " It cracks me up to see all these idiots who push all this "fake meat" and all, but then turn around and spend money out the wazoo for "all wild and natural" type of dog foods for their dogs." Gives another definition to IDIOT and CLUELESS NUTCASES like that....
I think this "FAKE MEAT", regardless of what name it goes by, will get a foothold just like the different "milks" that have taken a portion of the dairy supply circle. I also think that as the actual cost of production gets passed around, for this FAKE MEAT, there might be some backlash. Plus, stop and think about all the people today who are developing "allergies" to things like wheat/gluten, peanut butter and such. We are not designed to consume plants in that quantity, and we will not evolve to do so in one or two generations. There may be more people who find that it will be intolerable to consume all this fake stuff. That will also have an impact on some of it. And if there are so many that are so gung ho about organic.... then they will not be able to eat some of this "fake stuff".....
A friend recently said to me " It cracks me up to see all these idiots who push all this "fake meat" and all, but then turn around and spend money out the wazoo for "all wild and natural" type of dog foods for their dogs." Gives another definition to IDIOT and CLUELESS NUTCASES like that....
HDRider
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It is hard to know if you are trying to be helpful, or trying to be a SA. I can say for sure how it comes across.callmefence said:
I made a choice of when I sold them for good reasons. I knew they would not make me a profit. I also knew it limited my loss.
So here is your sign. Skip ahead a few post and give me your address like you always do so we can settle this offline.
callmefence
Keyboard cowboy
HDRider said:
I was trying to be a helpful smartazz. Lol
Sorry if the truth offends you. I will try to sugar-coat it for next time.
25four- 258-nine86eight.
skyhightree1
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farmerjan said:
How far are you from spring lake
bird dog
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Last time I was at The stockyards in OKC I met a nice couple from Arkansas there for the first time. They reminded me of myself. They were worried sick that they had made a dumb decision having to pay so much for freight and all their friends and neighbors told them they were idiots and it would never pencil out. Same as folks tell me.
The man was worried about his calves and spent most of the time down in the pens making sure they had grain and a clean water trough. Same as I did the first time.
He had hired a pot even though he had only about 30,000 lbs. His calves were nice and well taken care of. Long weaned.
His wife told me they were fed up with the Arkansas sale barns where they wouldn't get paid for their work. Once again same as what I see and why I haul mine 300 miles.
After theirs went through I ask them if they were pleased and they said very much so and would be back.
As Corbett says, you have to put in the work, but you also have to find a place or a person that will pay you to do so.
The man was worried about his calves and spent most of the time down in the pens making sure they had grain and a clean water trough. Same as I did the first time.
He had hired a pot even though he had only about 30,000 lbs. His calves were nice and well taken care of. Long weaned.
His wife told me they were fed up with the Arkansas sale barns where they wouldn't get paid for their work. Once again same as what I see and why I haul mine 300 miles.
After theirs went through I ask them if they were pleased and they said very much so and would be back.
As Corbett says, you have to put in the work, but you also have to find a place or a person that will pay you to do so.
