3waycross":1ol3l70j said:Now for the flip side of the story. We just had a case adjudicated near Hartsel Colo where a rancher who could not get his neighbor to take responsibility for his wandering buffalo shot a great number of them. It ended up costing him a fortune and possibly some jail time. As Northern Rancher said when they have caused your neighbors enuf trouble they end up being a rug. The fact that we are a FENCE OUTstate does not make it ok to let an animal that is that dangerous and destructive to roam (no pun intended) at will.
Do not kid yourself, that heifer is there because she WANTS to be there. the minute she doesn't , that 5 strand will be like tissue paper to her. They are NOT cattle, and with or without romantic sounding Native American names, they can and will under the right circumstances kill you.
Keren":34cd3cnf said:3waycross":34cd3cnf said:Now for the flip side of the story. We just had a case adjudicated near Hartsel Colo where a rancher who could not get his neighbor to take responsibility for his wandering buffalo shot a great number of them. It ended up costing him a fortune and possibly some jail time. As Northern Rancher said when they have caused your neighbors enuf trouble they end up being a rug. The fact that we are a FENCE OUTstate does not make it ok to let an animal that is that dangerous and destructive to roam (no pun intended) at will.
Do not kid yourself, that heifer is there because she WANTS to be there. the minute she doesn't , that 5 strand will be like tissue paper to her. They are NOT cattle, and with or without romantic sounding Native American names, they can and will under the right circumstances kill you.
'Ordinary' beef cattle under the right circumstances can and will kill you.
Keren":12zbx8a6 said:3way, I have worked with various 'undomesticated' species and breeds of livestock, and if you get them from the right source and have some knowledge of livestock handling they are not significantly more dangerous than the truly domesticated species and breeds. It sounds like this guy has done his research and purchased a calm heifer from a breeder whose animals are good on fences and calm and easy to handle. Obviously the breeder puts a lot of time into gentling those animals. There would be a world of difference between a heifer from this breeder, and a heifer from someone who free ranges their buffalo and only handled them once a year.
True, but there are so many more domesticated cattle than there are buffalo.B&L Longhorn Ranch":3euy0y6l said:If the last reference was to "me," it is exactly right!
I have tried to do my best to ensure success...
(1) Bought a little heifer as compared to a full grown cow to allow time for her to get accustomed to us.
(2) Bought that little heifer from a "pumpkin patch petting zoo" after the closure of last year.
(3) Allow her to run with a small herd of "domesticated" cattle who are quite gentle.
(4) Pay her special attention to further earn her trust as well as watch her cautiously.
I may still end up being hurt one year, I realize that, but I'd be willing to bet there are ten-fold more injuries per year concerning "domesticated" cattle...
B&L Longhorn Ranch":2agckr07 said:If the last reference was to "me," it is exactly right!
I have tried to do my best to ensure success...
(1) Bought a little heifer as compared to a full grown cow to allow time for her to get accustomed to us.
(2) Bought that little heifer from a "pumpkin patch petting zoo" after the closure of last year.
(3) Allow her to run with a small herd of "domesticated" cattle who are quite gentle.
(4) Pay her special attention to further earn her trust as well as watch her cautiously.
I may still end up being hurt one year, I realize that, but I'd be willing to bet there are ten-fold more injuries per year concerning "domesticated" cattle...
most rodeo contracters and ropers nowdays perfer correinte cattle, their horn width don't get as wide a span and their a little smaller than longhorn . though the longhorn is still fairly popular in back yard arenas...longhorn make great roping calve's and you better be mounted cause their like the windBARNSCOOP":3fz55qbw said:I used to buy bison meat from a guy in my neck of the woods that had a very large herd (before I had cattle). I never heard him complain about them. But he did get completely out after a few years. We also have people here who raise them for team penning practice. Every gate on their place is a twisted, bent mess. Even heard of them having to kill one on the spot and call a rollback to come get it to slaughter. My vet told me to never get a bison....unless I enjoyed the anticipation of getting hurt. But I have a friend who bottle fed one , William is his name, and he is a hugh monster of a guy at six or older. He stays in a lot with goats and is happy but only the owner can touch him. My husband wants one but I'll just say it.......I have enough trouble with cattle, I work hard building fence, and live across a large creek from the city....I don't need another worry. I believe these guys need ROOM to roam and most farms can't offer enough of it. But they are neat.
The same friend that has the bison also has Long Horns. Raises them for the roping guys. That maybe a good way to make money on Long Horns.