Larry Sansom":xntfpcnx said:Wouldn't we all love to "look at them" and tell if bred. Sorry, but it involves a rectal exam or the new blood test that is just out. Sort of like women - never - never - never say anything about pregnancy or how many days until due --- unless you are ABSOLUTELY sure the woman IS preg! Ya just CAN'T tell by looking!
Larry Sansom":xntfpcnx said:Spend a little time "looking" at your cows rather than just gazing at them - I can tell if they are bred by looking at the hair, also can tell the sex of the calf by the hair (hint- look at the hair on the tail). Sure gives you an advantage when buying and selling. Not perfect - but Very High %. Less time on the computer and more with cows and knowledgeable cattle people pays dividends.
Sure "I" can do it - but a NEW cattleman that has to ask the question will have no clue. Have you looked at the hair on the cows top line and on tail yet and made your decisions on bred or not and heifer vs bull??? Try it - you might even suprise yourself!Texan":3satzssa said:Larry Sansom":3satzssa said:Wouldn't we all love to "look at them" and tell if bred. Sorry, but it involves a rectal exam or the new blood test that is just out. Sort of like women - never - never - never say anything about pregnancy or how many days until due --- unless you are ABSOLUTELY sure the woman IS preg! Ya just CAN'T tell by looking!
Gee, Larry. How times have changed in a few months. Maybe you've been spending too much time on the computer lately? On July 25, you were a lot better cattleman:
Larry Sansom":3satzssa said:Spend a little time "looking" at your cows rather than just gazing at them - I can tell if they are bred by looking at the hair, also can tell the sex of the calf by the hair (hint- look at the hair on the tail). Sure gives you an advantage when buying and selling. Not perfect - but Very High %. Less time on the computer and more with cows and knowledgeable cattle people pays dividends.
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Sure. :lol:Larry Sansom":23oikm8i said:Sure "I" can do it.....
Larry Sansom":3uc5x6ob said:Have you looked at the hair on the cows top line and on tail yet and made your decisions on bred or not and heifer vs bull??? Try it - you might even suprise yourself!
Larry, how much per hd do you charge and what percentage correct could a rancher expect.. How many hd.per day would you check.Texan":2buxror1 said:Sure. :lol:Larry Sansom":2buxror1 said:Sure "I" can do it.....
Gerald Fry has some pretty wild ideas on linear measurements, etc for forage cattle - but his system DOES work on the hair on preg cows. I was a non-believer until I tried it. No - I paid to learn it and am not about to tell you how for free. You can figure it out on you own by the 2 keys I have given you above.milkmaid":rh9gobsk said:Larry Sansom":rh9gobsk said:Have you looked at the hair on the cows top line and on tail yet and made your decisions on bred or not and heifer vs bull??? Try it - you might even suprise yourself!
How????????
I haven't yet been able to tell if a cow is bred or open...although I've made some educated guesses...figure I've got a 50/50 chance. :lol:
Mr. Fry, with his forty years experience in A. I. breeding and palpating, can be an excellent teacher for his client. Mr. Fry will teach his client Artificial Insemination and palpating at their ranch, in their own environment, with their own cattle and in their own facilities. With intensive training, in most cases, Mr. Fry's clients will be trained in one day how to A. I. and palpate cows. Mr. Fry utilizes visual aids for the female reproductive tract, ovaries and forty five day old through 4 month old fetuses for his clients to practice on and see with their eye what their fingers will have to do in the dark.
All of the training can be done as Mr. Fry is breeding his client's cattle in a synchronized program, or Mr. Fry can train his client with open cows. Mr. Fry is able to meet the specific need of his client. (from- http://www.bovineengineering.com/ai.htm)
This only works if they cow is into the last trimester. But if you can observe her grazing, look on the right side, sometimes, not always, you can actually see the calf move, look right below the hip bone area and a little to the front. just sit there and watch........This won't work looking at the cows left side, that's where the rumen is.
Other than that, ya hafta palpate. Or have it done.
I Don't know of any case where this method has failed. I have gotten 100% accuracy using this method.DD RANCH":5ql9gil2 said:Watch her close when there are 2 feet sticking out you know for sure she's bred but at that point she won't be for long :lol2:
dbc":24ftzsny said:i know you cannot be 100% sure but i have seen where somepeople have said she looks bred or something to that affect