kenny thomas
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But my question is why IM instead of subQ
Bloated calf
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Silver
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Can't answer for Gcreek, but I would do IM because it works faster than subq
kenny thomas
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Ok, thanks. I can see the need for speed in this case. Im just terrible to fuss about using SQ everytime possible.
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Ky hills
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So far so good, I've seen the calf chewing it's cud earlier today, and it stretches when it gets up.
Jeanne - Simme Valley
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Yup. I like to see them stretch.
wbvs58
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I really don't know much about this Dave but from memory Oxytetracycline goes through the liver and is excreted through the gut and can affect the bacteria there so this may be the rationale for using it.
Ken
Works for us. We don't see many of them anymore since we started giving cows a cheap clostridial vaccine pre calving in conjunction with scour shot.
Thanks for posting this. I have a 2 month old calf that also seems bloated. Comes and goes. Definitely gassy. Farts like a cow. I saw some diarrhea yesterday. Always seems alert and active. I'm going to give her some LA200 today and some mineral oil in case it's enterotoxemia as has been discussed. That said, when I research that it sure seems like that's just a calf killer - you wake up and they are dead. My calf has had it off and on for a couple weeks. Also, it seems to have to do with a calf overeating or surge eating - which also doesn't make sense for me because this is a calf on a first calf heifer and they are always together.
Any other ideas what it might be? I was going to have the vet look at her during her recent visit but, of course, she seemed totally fine that day. Eating healthy. On grass pasture with some hay added. Not seeing her nurse other cows or anything yet but has free choice of everything so no need to surge eat anything. Initially kinda thought maybe she just has some "hay belly" from eating too much roughage because momma is a light milking heifer too? But she does fart like a cow.... She is gassy. Sometimes I've seen their gut just go through "stages" as well as they build their rumen etc....
Anyway - any other thoughts appreciated.
Anyway - any other thoughts appreciated.
Silver
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I would use castor oil if was me to get the guts moving. Mineral oil doesn't do that. Not saying oil of any kind will solve the problem, just pointing out that mineral oil is just a lubricant, castor oil kicks things into gear.
Edit to add: Have you seen this calf chewing cud?
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bird dog
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Silver, is there any rule on how much you should give?
Silver
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I would give about 3 oz. To a small calf, double for a calf 8-10 weeks. Seems to work, haven't been able to attribute any deaths directly to it anyway.
If you are with them as much as we are, you will see a calf kicking at its belly, flopping on its side and kicking more. Catch them then and you will save them.
Yeah, this must be something else. Chewing cud, nursing, grazing, no belling kicking or laying on side, no evidence of pain at all, being totally normal. When I first started watching here I kinda thought she was a chronic bloater - but too young and pasture too grassy for that really.
Got it in the chute just now - lots of gas, putrid smelling "stool".
Got the oxy in her, some probiotics - which the vet swears by - and the mineral oil. Vet wonders if it's Coccidia - which we do get in wet years in calves this age. But I've never seen the gas with Coccidia like that. Vet also kinda sorta advised against the mineral oil going forward if the diarrhea is already there.
Got it in the chute just now - lots of gas, putrid smelling "stool".
Got the oxy in her, some probiotics - which the vet swears by - and the mineral oil. Vet wonders if it's Coccidia - which we do get in wet years in calves this age. But I've never seen the gas with Coccidia like that. Vet also kinda sorta advised against the mineral oil going forward if the diarrhea is already there.
GoWyo
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If you have not done so, I would get that calf a shot of 7-way vaccine. Something like this:
Ultrabac 7/Somubac Cattle Vaccine Zoetis Animal Health - Blackleg Somnus | Cattle Vaccines | Farm
Fast Shipping. Great Low Price. Ultrabac 7/Somubac is a 7-way cattle vaccine to prevent blackleg and provide somnus protection for cattle 3 months of age or older. Ultrabac 7 is indicated for the prevention of Clostridium chauvoei, septicum, novyi, sordellii, perfringens Types C & D plus...
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Yeah, thought about that. Entire herd is vaccinated annually with 7 way about 60 days prior to calving after getting double vaccinated at weaning. So, normally, this calf who is still on a double vaccinated dam would get vaccinated in another 3-4 months just before I fully wean.
GoWyo
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I vax most calves with that when I tag them as newborns, then when we brand at 30-60 days age and again when we precondition at 5-6 months age.
Any blood in her stool?
I don't vaccinate calves for clostridial (Calvary 9) until appx 3 months old because of (supposedly) passive immunity, but I did lose a 2-month-old heifer years ago to Type D. Cows are vaccinated annually.
Have you taken her temp?
MurraysMutts
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To.me anyway, it just looked like that calf need to take a massive poop!
It's tail says it has been pooping regular tho.
Bet the oil did its job.
How the poop look when it finally took one?
