black face baldies

[brierpatch1974]

What all breed crosses make black face baldies?

BP

 

[warpaint]

Not to be technical, but do you mean black baldies?

 

[Scotty]

Most are a cross of Angus and Hereford. Other crosses can result in the same. The F1 cross is the most likely becasue the bald gene is dominate and then recessive after that. Very good cross the Angus X Hereford. Most will out perform thier parents.

 

[Aero]

Not to be technical, but do you mean black baldies?

i think a black baldie w/ a black face is just a black cow...

 

[brierpatch1974]

lol yes I mean black baldies.. Sorry newborn baby keeping me wore out. Momma had a hard time and I am making her rest and getting very little myself.
I was wondering what would offspring would look like from angus cows croseed with charolais Bull. Would they be black with a white face? or what?

BP

 

[3MR]

I believe you would get a black cow or what some have called a smokey.

You wouldnt get a black baldie.

 

[Dave]

An angus bred to a charolias can result in a black calf, a white one, or a smokey one but that combination wont give you a baldie unless there is some other genetics involved.

 

[dun]

lol yes I mean black baldies.. Sorry newborn baby keeping me wore out. Momma had a hard time and I am making her rest and getting very little myself.
I was wondering what would offspring would look like from angus cows croseed with charolais Bull. Would they be black with a white face? or what?

BP

Not unless there was a Hereford or possibly a Simmenthal in the woodpile somewhere.
http://skyway.usask.ca/~schmutz/CowPatt ... l#Hereford

dun

 

[warpaint]

In that case, as Scotty said, angus x hereford would be the best route.

 

[Alan]

I'm under the impression that a true Black Baldy is a Black Angus X Hereford. Not anything else.

Alan

 

[dun]

I'm under the impression that a true Black Baldy is a Black Angus X Hereford. Not anything else.

Alan

Unless you know the heritege of a particular baldy, there is no way to know if it;s from an AngusxHereford, HerfordxHolstein, Simmenthal xAngus, SimmenthalxHolstein, etc. You can guess, but you can;t alwasy tell

dun

 

[backhoeboogie]

I'm under the impression that a true Black Baldy is a Black Angus X Hereford. Not anything else.

Alan

Black baldy parents can have calves that are baldies. Or you can cross a baldy bull with an angus etc.

 

[Scotty]

I'm under the impression that a true Black Baldy is a Black Angus X Hereford. Not anything else.

Alan

Black baldy parents can have calves that are baldies. Or you can cross a baldy bull with an angus etc.

Using the F1 X to an Agus cow or Angus bull on an F1 more times than not you will get a solid faced animal. Probly like 75% chance. The BLK baldies I have usually have solid calves. When they calve with colored faces it is usually a mottled face. Anyway after the first generation the bald gene is recessive.

 

[backhoeboogie]

Using the F1 X to an Agus cow or Angus bull on an F1 more times than not you will get a solid faced animal. Probly like 75% chance. The BLK baldies I have usually have solid calves. When they calve with colored faces it is usually a mottled face. Anyway after the first generation the bald gene is recessive.

I am not here to argue numbers or percentage, I truly don't know. But I have seen baldy cows have baldy calves. Dad had a baldy bull in the early 80's that threw some baldy calves too. Yes I have seen mottled ones too.

Beyond a doubt most common is a hereford angus cross.

 

[dun]

Facial markings are a pretty useless way of trying to determine breeds after the first cross, and sometimes in the first cross. We have baldys that will have a solid calf or a white faced calf in different years bred to a Red Angus bull.

http://www.cattletoday.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24152

dun