glacierridge
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plumber_greg":3nyfcdb3 said:I am not a breed basher or anything like that.Muddy":3nyfcdb3 said:Please be elaborate on the bolded statement? What do you meant hurting the whole industry? From non-angus calves or what?plumber_greg":3nyfcdb3 said:But giant high weaning weights ususally don't do well on the rail.
Shouldn't everyone's end goal, whether selling unweaned calves, yearlings, or fat cattle, be to raise the best. Bigger weaning weight doesn't mean best. Best is the best when harvested.
I know a lot of us hobby farmers are just looking at the weaned calf. I believe this hurts the whole industry. We should always look at the finished product. Not try to hide some off beef breed, like Holstein, in our calves for the packer to find. HolX cows raise big calves, but one should expect, and always get, Holstein prices for their calves.
JMO gs
What I mean is, the consumer is the one we are raising calves for. They want a certain type of product.
The feedlot is one we are raising calves for. They want consistent calves to feed. Ones that will sell on their grid to get their preminums. Grade 4 cattle cost them a lot of money.
The packer is next. In order to sell to the consumer a certain product, consistent product is wanted.
I like to tell the story of a friend of mine that sold calves at the local sale barn. He sold around 40-50 steers each year. They were framey, looked excellent, and were calves to look at and be proud of. However, they were also around 1/8 Holstein.
3 years in a row, they were among the top sellers. Fourth year, around .40 dock. Guy is mad as heck. What happened?
Sale barn mananger told him the feeders realized the Holstein in them were causing problems feeding and grading. They no longer wanted them. Same feeders at different barns. Very few people could see Holstein when looking at the calves, until harvested. About 3 generations later problem solved.
Balance is what it takes, I think every bull we use, every heifer we keep, should be with the end result in mind, as well as the, "How many pounds am I gonna' wean." crowd. Sorry kinda' long, gs
So... Belgian blue is totally opposite of dairy.
Dairy are unwanted because of poor feed conversion.
Blues have one of the highest feed conversions.
You get WAY more pounds with fewer inputs.
I'm not sure how that's a problem.
And with breeds that finish and fatten early, seems advantageous to have a simple outcross rather than expensive feed or hormone to add pounds onto the hook.
And they add weight where it counts. Excellent cuttability against other breeds if you look up the data.