dieselbeef
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10-4 on that keepin her issue. its the end result yer looking at not HER appearance. is yer truck and tractor pretty or do they just do the job theyre asked to do
only when their not workingdieselbeef":3lnbqe91 said:10-4 on that keepin her issue. its the end result yer looking at not HER appearance. is yer truck and tractor pretty or do they just do the job theyre asked to do
dieselbeef":hr6fiy7n said:10-4 on that keepin her issue. its the end result yer looking at not HER appearance. is yer truck and tractor pretty or do they just do the job theyre asked to do
come on a 'dodge cummins'' it'll take more then dents too bring it downKNERSIE":3s9oz2i1 said:dieselbeef":3s9oz2i1 said:10-4 on that keepin her issue. its the end result yer looking at not HER appearance. is yer truck and tractor pretty or do they just do the job theyre asked to do
The question that only time will answer is will she continue to do her job year after year and do it on time if she gets sucked down like this? In my environment the answer is no.
If your truck gets so many dents while working every year how long will it keep running before letting you down?
Would you mind telling me where you got this information? Granted, higher uptake of calories generally leads to increased fat storage, I'm not sure that calorie intake and weight are exactly a direct proportionality, but rather lends itself to variable change as many animals have different metablolic rates (of which fluctuate according to environmental conditions, available food reserves, and parasites, etc).I would like to learn more on this subject as I am currently in Veterinary School and have been taught differently. Any information on where I can find this information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.one other thought is that the only place her weight has gone is into that calf via milk. milk is inefficient and for every 100 calories the calf receives, it takes about 130 calories out of the cow. with this idea in mind, if the calf gained an extra 200 lbs because the cow is a "good milker", it probably took 260 lbs off of the cow.
JR Cattle Co.":4gooeof5 said:Would you mind telling me where you got this information? Granted, higher uptake of calories generally leads to increased fat storage, I'm not sure that calorie intake and weight are exactly a direct proportionality, but rather lends itself to variable change as many animals have different metablolic rates (of which fluctuate according to environmental conditions, available food reserves, and parasites, etc).I would like to learn more on this subject as I am currently in Veterinary School and have been taught differently. Any information on where I can find this information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
First of all, I'm not disagreeing with the fact that this cow is in poor condition and that most of the energy went into the calf! That is obvious! I'm simply seeking out more knowledge and trying to learn all that I can, therefore, I inquire when I see, hear, or read something that is different from what I've been taught. Afterall, isn't that how knowledge is obtained? Nobody is disagreeing here, just trying to identify accurate information!! I find it unfortunate that people don't comprehend what they read (much like you have done with my original reply), so I try to understand and get the facts instead of just absorbing inaccurate information.What exactly are you disagreeing with??? You can look at the cow and see that she needs to put on 200++ pounds to be in a body condition score 5. You know the weight went somewhere. Some energy is lost in the process of making milk. More energy is lost by the calf digesting the milk, some of the calve's digested energy is utilized for maintenance and does not get used for growth. You have a picture of a poor cow with a big strapping fat calf. While yes the cow probably has lost some energy to weather and parasites, logic dictates that most of the cow's missing weight went into that big fat calf. Now if we were looking at a pair that had just gone through a drought and had been starved; we would expect to see a poor cow with a small runty calf as there weren't enough groceries available for the cow to maintain her condition or feed the calf properly. In this case it is obvious that there was groceries because we can see them in the calf.
sizmic":inbcw8ab said:My nephew just finished Vet school and he did the preg checks this year, yes she was checked safe. If you have any doubts about the quality of the check, he was getting within about 10 days on the AI cattle.
The rest of you can breathe a sigh of relief now, she's in the barn for a great big "Thank You" meal. As I stated earlier she didn't look much better than that carrying that calf, she's had protein tubs, silage and supplimental feed with the others. She's just a hard do'er and you could fit her udder in a quart mason jar! She was even in the lushest green fescue in the county over last summer without her first calf on her. That should've put 200 #'s on her but it didn't.
Sizmic