WalnutCrest
Well-known member
Reading all the back and forth on another thread about the importance of buying a bull (or semen) with certain EPDs made me wonder if anyone here would consider buying a bull (or semen from a bull) with the following description:
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Bull never saw a halter and is very quiet (I can scratch his rump in the pasture and he won't even look up from grazing). His actual BW was 75lbs. His heaviest bull calf he's sired was 80 lbs and the average bull calf sired was <75lbs; the average heifer calf sired was <65 lbs. He's been serving cows and heifers without a single pull since his second summer (he bred a small group of females as a 15 month old bull). Never been treated for injury, ailment or parasites -- no vaccines, antibiotics or de-wormers ever. Over 75% of his daughters who are currently 3+ years old bred to calve before their 2nd birthday and again before their 3rd birthday without seeing grain.
Dam of the bull calved annually until she was 14 years old (with zero pulls), at which time she left production to produce embryos. She was never treated for illness or injury. She was never vaccinated, given antibiotics or treated for parasites. Without seeing a drop of grain, over 75% of her heifer calves calved annually starting with their 2nd birthday and over half of the bull calves she's delivered ran as breeding bulls for at least two years (the oldest of which ran for 5+ years and is still going). The dams' sire was naturally serving cows and heifers past his 12th birthday.
Sire of the bull bred cows and heifers for two years; he never was treated for injury, ailment or parasites. Over 75% of his daughters calved at 2yrs old and rebred to calve at 3 years old without seeing a drop of grain in the process. Never sired a calf that was pulled.
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What else would you really want to know?
Do breeders really need EPDs to make a decision about whether or not a bull is worthwhile?
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Bull never saw a halter and is very quiet (I can scratch his rump in the pasture and he won't even look up from grazing). His actual BW was 75lbs. His heaviest bull calf he's sired was 80 lbs and the average bull calf sired was <75lbs; the average heifer calf sired was <65 lbs. He's been serving cows and heifers without a single pull since his second summer (he bred a small group of females as a 15 month old bull). Never been treated for injury, ailment or parasites -- no vaccines, antibiotics or de-wormers ever. Over 75% of his daughters who are currently 3+ years old bred to calve before their 2nd birthday and again before their 3rd birthday without seeing grain.
Dam of the bull calved annually until she was 14 years old (with zero pulls), at which time she left production to produce embryos. She was never treated for illness or injury. She was never vaccinated, given antibiotics or treated for parasites. Without seeing a drop of grain, over 75% of her heifer calves calved annually starting with their 2nd birthday and over half of the bull calves she's delivered ran as breeding bulls for at least two years (the oldest of which ran for 5+ years and is still going). The dams' sire was naturally serving cows and heifers past his 12th birthday.
Sire of the bull bred cows and heifers for two years; he never was treated for injury, ailment or parasites. Over 75% of his daughters calved at 2yrs old and rebred to calve at 3 years old without seeing a drop of grain in the process. Never sired a calf that was pulled.
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What else would you really want to know?
Do breeders really need EPDs to make a decision about whether or not a bull is worthwhile?
