Veterinary Feed Directive 2017

[chippie]

wasn't sure if this had been shared here. something else to make life more complicated and expensive.

http://www.greeleytribune.com/news/...rective-will-impact-whole-livestock-industry#

 

[backhoeboogie]

First I have heard of it. Guess we'll be going back to the old home remedies, isolation, and spending lengthy time in the healing processes.

 

[Workinonit Farm]

Yes, there's been some (surprisingly little) discussion . It may have been in Coffee Shop or Everything Else. I think VFD was in the title of the thread.

Yup, one more thing to make life difficult for some. One step closer to losing control.

How much longer until verticle integration??

 

[backhoeboogie]

i suspect it will be business as usual for corp farming no changes in diet for most

small time will suffer the burden

 

[Caustic Burno]

First I have heard of it. Guess we'll be going back to the old home remedies, isolation, and spending lengthy time in the healing processes.

I have been hollering louder to my US Rep than a man on the wrong train.

The writing was on the wall when BQA was being encouraged.
I am BQA certified and you better get that way.

 

[Brute 23]

What's the problem? I know a lot of people who are pill and shot happy. They do it to themselves and their animals.


If an animal is sick it gets feed and water in a pen... if it can't kick it... it gets the bullet. Do that for a while and you will notice your heard is a lot healthier. Its called survival of the fittest.... I think Mother Nature invented it.... been going on since the begging of time. ;-)

 

[Caustic Burno]

What's the problem? I know a lot of people who are pill and shot happy. They do it to themselves and their animals.


If an animal is sick it gets feed and water in a pen... if it can't kick it... it gets the bullet. Do that for a while and you will notice your heard is a lot healthier. Its called survival of the fittest.... I think Mother Nature invented it.... been going on since the begging of time. ;-)

I have a lot of the same philosophy and there are those dispatched with a big bore 44.

What is wrong is this is another of thousand's of regulations that they keep piling on us
that require CEU hours and money.
I will bet you a dollar against a doughnut hole you wont be able to sell a cow in ten years if you
are not BQA certified.
Just look at the hoopla you have to go through now to get a new herbicide license.

 

[Caustic Burno]

BQA is free right now I am betting 2017 or 18 it goes the way of pesticide/herbicide.
Texas is already offering CEUs in the workshops.

http://www.bqa.org/certification

 

[sim.-ang.king]

What's the problem? I know a lot of people who are pill and shot happy. They do it to themselves and their animals.


If an animal is sick it gets feed and water in a pen... if it can't kick it... it gets the bullet. Do that for a while and you will notice your heard is a lot healthier. Its called survival of the fittest.... I think Mother Nature invented it.... been going on since the begging of time. ;-)

Just wait till they make so you can't shoot cattle, and you have to pay a vet $200 to do it.
Regulations only lead to more regulation, and less control by the people.
So when are you going to say stop?

 

[backhoeboogie]

What's the problem? I know a lot of people who are pill and shot happy. They do it to themselves and their animals.


If an animal is sick it gets feed and water in a pen... if it can't kick it... it gets the bullet. Do that for a while and you will notice your heard is a lot healthier. Its called survival of the fittest.... I think Mother Nature invented it.... been going on since the begging of time. ;-)

Just wait till they make so you can't shoot cattle, and you have to pay a vet $200 to do it.
Regulations only lead to more regulation, and less control by the people.
So when are you going to say stop?

Its already that way for horses in many places. A horse gets hit by a car and you have to call a vet to put it to sleep. No kidding.

Brute you won't kill one over a case of the pink eye. Mother nature is going to give you a cloudy eye and you take a hit at the sale barn. Versus fixing it.

 

[Brute 23]

What's the problem? I know a lot of people who are pill and shot happy. They do it to themselves and their animals.


If an animal is sick it gets feed and water in a pen... if it can't kick it... it gets the bullet. Do that for a while and you will notice your heard is a lot healthier. Its called survival of the fittest.... I think Mother Nature invented it.... been going on since the begging of time. ;-)

I have a lot of the same philosophy and there are those dispatched with a big bore 44.

What is wrong is this is another of thousand's of regulations that they keep piling on us
that require CEU hours and money.
I will bet you a dollar against a doughnut hole you wont be able to sell a cow in ten years if you
are not BQA certified.
Just look at the hoopla you have to go through now to get a new herbicide license.

I understand its more reach and I am definitely not for that. At the same time people are getting carried away with the meds. Damned if you do.... damned if you don't I guess.

 

[TCRanch]

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=102030

Recent post about VFD.

 

[Kell-inKY]

Regulations only lead to more regulation, and less control by the people.
So when are you going to say stop?

I understand the government is getting out of control, BUT, at the same time people do stupid stuff like feeding ground up sick cows to other cows to save a buck. How did that work out?

There is nothing normal about feeding your kids or your cows a constant dose of antibiotics.

 

[Caustic Burno]

Regulations only lead to more regulation, and less control by the people.
So when are you going to say stop?

I understand the government is getting out of control, BUT, at the same time people do stupid stuff like feeding ground up sick cows to other cows to save a buck. How did that work out?

There is nothing normal about feeding your kids or your cows a constant dose of antibiotics.

That is a socialist view as we need the government to take care of us.
The problem is runaway regulations with population that doesn't produce anything but
another hungry mouth to feed that votes and is supported by a socialist government from womb to tomb.
We started down this slippery slope in the 1960's. We have enough regulations enforce those before making more. .

 

[Kell-inKY]

I can see your point, but are we going to allow farmers to inject or feed ANYTHING they want without any regulation?

 

[Caustic Burno]

I can see your point, but are we going to allow farmers to inject or feed ANYTHING they want without any regulation?

The USDA already inspects the food chain, cattle,hogs, etc can be traced to source of origin.
If you are over medicating quarantine the source just like bangs or tuberculosis.
This is nothing more than an added cost to the producer another hidden tax no different than herbicide pesticide
has become if you want to maximize production.

 

[Kell-inKY]

Should the government regulate the food supply or not?

 

[branguscowgirl]

Regulations only lead to more regulation, and less control by the people.
So when are you going to say stop?

I understand the government is getting out of control, BUT, at the same time people do stupid stuff like feeding ground up sick cows to other cows to save a buck. How did that work out?

There is nothing normal about feeding your kids or your cows a constant dose of antibiotics.

That is a socialist view as we need the government to take care of us.
The problem is runaway regulations with population that doesn't produce anything but
another hungry mouth to feed that votes and is supported by a socialist government from womb to tomb.

How is what Kell said a "socialist view"? No one said anything about "needing the government to take care of us."
I happen to agree, "feeding anything a constant dose of antibiotics is not normal."
Do we need more regulations? He11 no!
Do we need more conscientious livestock owners? Probabably.
Do I buy into the idea that "antibiotic fed beef, pork, or chicken is bad for our children"? Not likely.
But I do believe that antibiotics are being used irresponsibly by some, I have seen it.
And again, the government should not need to be involved. Producers should be regulating this.

 

[Caustic Burno]

Should the government regulate the food supply or not?

To some extent this is over reach.
I don't find it ethical to feed cattle chicken shyt and it is perfectly legal.
Let me ask you a question as an ethical producer who is going to bear the cost when you need to medicate
your herd. This is a money scheme, I have been to too many workshops they are targeting total herd health
by a vet.
I was a lucky SOB and got my herd quarantined by lottery to be tested for TB by a state vet.
That cost me thousands and my herd was TB free.
I lost my first herd in the 70's to the quarantine for bangs. Hell we didn't even know what bangs was.
Pen the herd one out of 50 would test positive and the whole herd quarantined after a year sold all
of them with a B branded on their jaw for a nickel a pound.
These cows posed no safety hazard to the food chain.

 

[Kell-inKY]

Should the government regulate the food supply or not?

To some extent this is over reach.

is that a yes or a no?