johndeerefarmer":2x1f2vjm said:
I have not had good luck with round bale rings.
1. The cows trample the grass around the ring (if it's muddy) and it take a year for it to come back, even if I move the ring after each use.
2. If I use rings, I have to put out more hay than necessary because only so many cows can eat at one ring. And one boss cow can take half a feeder to herself.
3. My cows tend to leave hay in the bottom of the ring. This is a combination of the outer weathered layer as well as the good stuff. The cows do not like digging thru it. When I unroll it, the weathered hay is on the ground, not only allowing the cows to eat the good stuff but also keeping the good stuff off of the ground.
4. I feed my cattle hay EVERYDAY (during feeding season). I do not believe in throwing out half a dozen bales and not seeing the cattle for several days.
5. University studies are not necessarily factual. If someone would measure the amount of waste in my feeding method, that would be apparent. But, to each his own..............
JDF
When I read your comments and place them with the location you advertise - your comments make sense.
Our feed season is a fair bit longer, and we tend to feed once a week on frozen ground. And starting a tractor in minus 30 and 40 weather is not always fun as I am sure you know.
Our round feeders are not really round - we have built them so they are about 20 feet long and only one bale wide allowing a bunch of animals to eat together. Tombstone style. If memory serves, we can put 4-5 bales in each feeder.
I squeeze the extra bale in by forcing it in with the loader. Sometimes I can get the extra bale in and sometimes I cannot - just depends on initial bale pacement and bale shape and size when they come out of the stack.
If there are too many cows per feeder we get into some increased wastage by simply dropping a few extra on frozen ground - well spaced and about 100 yeards from the feeders.
Sometimes this means we use the feeders less than we probably should because we space the bales on the snow in a real big circle. About 30 yards or so between each bale.
Your number three comment is - I believe - true for all of us. But I move the feeders by taking them apart - this allows the cows to bed on the wasted stuff - when we run the pencil, it oftens pays to do this and not have to buy straw - the dollar trade off works in our favour most times.
I really like your number five comment as those studies are usually very good - but the drawback from my perspective is they tend to be regionally located - often making them unuseable for those of us who live in entirely different areas.
Have a nice day,
Bez?