slick4591
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Thanks Aaron.
jedstivers":1kdrbd5d said:My cattle are just a hobby. The real bills are paid off the row crops.
That may be in your area, but I disagree. Maybe out in the SW US maybe.In the vast majority of cases, year-round calving goes hand in hand with, at best, minimal to no management.
We know your better than that Cross. :nod:cross_7":3djwhwkh said:jedstivers":3djwhwkh said:My cattle are just a hobby. The real bills are paid off the row crops.
I'm gonna set mine up so I can watch them from the kitchen window
I'm also going sell the calves early just to get them gone and just wean them on the trailer
That way I don't have to lift a finger and can get on here and tell everyone how poorly they do things
branguscowgirl We know your better than that Cross. :nod: [/quote:3erio65s said:No you don't I'm mysterious that way
I'm like a redneck James Bond, but a rogue agent that's broke and has to eat happy meals at McDonalds and drink cheap beer
cross_7":mwi1pzcj said:This part is true! The other, not so much.branguscowgirl We know your better than that Cross. :nod: [/quote:mwi1pzcj said:No you don't I'm mysterious that way
I'm like a redneck James Bond, but a rogue agent that's broke and has to eat happy meals at McDonalds and drink cheap beer
So the little stubs face up against the udder, and not down toward the calf's lip. I assume that is to irritate the udder/teats and make the momma move away?Aaron":kmfvcbvl said:slick4591":kmfvcbvl said:Anyone experimented with the spikes down to the calf or up to the cow?
It only works if the spikes are pointed outwards. Point downwards, they just rest against the calf's lower lip.
I've seen a few of mine over the years learn that if they tilt their head and use their tongue to grab a teat, they can use the teat to flip the ring up so it rests on the bridge of their nose while they suck.
So the little stubs face up against the udder, and not down toward the calf's lip. I assume that is to irritate the udder/teats and make the momma move away? YesAaron":1g24hcv3 said:slick4591":1g24hcv3 said:Anyone experimented with the spikes down to the calf or up to the cow?
It only works if the spikes are pointed outwards. Point downwards, they just rest against the calf's lower lip.
I've seen a few of mine over the years learn that if they tilt their head and use their tongue to grab a teat, they can use the teat to flip the ring up so it rests on the bridge of their nose while they suck.
NC Liz 2":2gmdncrp said:Lucky,
Lets try taking this issue point by point and see if we can agree on at least some of it.
It is my position that the use of nose flaps can cause more harm then good both stress wise in both the cow and calf and financially.
As I understand the video the goal in using nose flaps is to reduce stress on both the calf and the cow.
Is that correct?
Was that your goal in using them? If not what was your goal?
Liz
PS As I said before my name is Liz and SL took the Vince Forster way out.
I can't give you an exact study, but I can tell you it is a well establish fact that injury ( possibly from a calves head butt ) and/or a bacterial invasion are the two main causes of Mastitis.What the basis (studies/documentation) that leads you to your contention that the flaps greatly increases the chances of mastitis?
I can't give you an exact study, but I can tell you it is a well establish fact that injury ( possibly from a calves head butt ) and/or a bacterial invasion are the two main causes of Mastitis.What the basis (studies/documentation) that leads you to your contention that the flaps greatly increases the chances of mastitis?