Tumor? Head

[*Cowgirl*]

4yo cow with large bumb on side of face.......not lumpy jaw......hard like bone.........have treated with pen. several times.........doesn't seem to bother her.........been there for 6 months to a year?.......vet doesn't know.......any ideas?......

 

[milkmaid]

How do you know it's not lumpy jaw?

 

[rockridgecattle]

If it is hard like bone it very well could be lumpy jaw. If it is attached to the bone and does not move like an absess, then big chances are lumpy jaw.
WE have had success if treated real early with LA 200 and an anti inflamitory as well as add iodine to the mineral.
But longer...like six months, nothing helps. The bone has already become honeycombed.
The best thing to do is ship if no fever and past the withdrawl time. We have three cases right now. They will be going to the rail grade pending vet approval.
lumpy jaw can spread. don't let them tell you other wise. If the lump breaks open, inside or out side the jaw, the bacteria will go into the water, or feed. If another animal eats or drinks close by that might have a cut in the mouth...from hay, teething etc..the bacteria enters and volia. This is why we have 3 cases right now.
We kept one that seemed to respond to treatment. Later, two heifers got it, slaughterd the first case, the hieffers got it bad, had calves at side, needed to wean the calves, the cows seemed to get better, back on hay, got worse again, now a bred heiffer got it this year. So these three animals are in quarantine untill weaning, and then they are out of here.
Lumpy jaw...bad news.
Google it and real about it.

 

[*Cowgirl*]

We originally thought it was, but the vet is no longer sure, as it didn't respond to any antibiotics right after it was detected and still quite small.

 

[*Cowgirl*]

Also - it is above her jaw.

 

[milkmaid]

Lumpy jaw can be anywhere on the head, not just the jaw. It's caused by a bacteria that gets into the bone, believe it's actinomycosis (sp?). And just because it doesn't respond to antibiotics doesn't mean it's not lumpy jaw... the stuff is very hard to get rid of and may not respond to antibiotics at all, simply because it's not in an easy location for the antibiotics to reach.

I've heard that IVs of sodium iodide (slowly!) can help by raising the iodine level in the blood.

 

[*Cowgirl*]

I'll see if I can get a picture of her.............

 

[rockridgecattle]

hi, the iodine IV did help for a time, but after 2 treatments there was no recovery. The one cow has it in her sinuses and is getting worse. Any where there might be bone, lumpy jaw can form. If you can get it cleared up before the bone gets honeycombed you have a chance.

 

[*Cowgirl*]

If it is hard like bone it very well could be lumpy jaw. If it is attached to the bone and does not move like an absess, then big chances are lumpy jaw.
WE have had success if treated real early with LA 200 and an anti inflamitory as well as add iodine to the mineral.
But longer...like six months, nothing helps. The bone has already become honeycombed.
The best thing to do is ship if no fever and past the withdrawl time. We have three cases right now. They will be going to the rail grade pending vet approval.
lumpy jaw can spread. don't let them tell you other wise. If the lump breaks open, inside or out side the jaw, the bacteria will go into the water, or feed. If another animal eats or drinks close by that might have a cut in the mouth...from hay, teething etc..the bacteria enters and volia. This is why we have 3 cases right now.
We kept one that seemed to respond to treatment. Later, two heifers got it, slaughterd the first case, the hieffers got it bad, had calves at side, needed to wean the calves, the cows seemed to get better, back on hay, got worse again, now a bred heiffer got it this year. So these three animals are in quarantine untill weaning, and then they are out of here.
Lumpy jaw...bad news.
Google it and real about it.

We started pen about uhhhhhh 8-10 months ago maybe. Before it was really noticible. sp Nothing seemed to happen. Doesn't bother the cow or hinder breathing in any way. She's still in good condition and none of the other animals have contracted it. We're going to try to get the vet to come out again.....Didn't see her this afternoon when I went out with my camera.........if it is LJ, I assume the bone has "honey-combed" Why hasn't any thing happenned like in the literature I've been reading?