Starting a New Ranch

Rafter S":3oh5rg0m said:
Caustic Burno":3oh5rg0m said:
Rafter S":3oh5rg0m said:
All I know about is my immediate area, which is about a 1 hour drive northwest of Houston. That $100,000 would probably get you 7-8 acres here, but considerably more within an hour's drive north or west. And you can generally run one cow-calf pair for every 3 acres. You can run more cows per acre farther east, and less as you go west.

Get about 25 acres of pasture here 33-35 of cut over pine plantation.

I'm right between Houston and Bryan/College Station. Land prices just keep going up and up. The time may come that if I want to keep having cattle I'll need to move. If that happens maybe I should consider heading to the Piney Woods.

You can buy a lot of plantation pretty cheap compared to most places.
http://www.mmoffett.com/html/acreage.html
 
I just sold 17.4 acres, with a usable barn on it for $120K, highway frontage but in 100 yr flood plain. Had it not been in a flood plain, asking price would have been 1/3 more and I would have got it.
 
greybeard":le513hdv said:
I just sold 17.4 acres, with a usable barn on it for $120K, highway frontage but in 100 yr flood plain. Had it not been in a flood plain, asking price would have been 1/3 more and I would have got it.

Yea but you are rapidly becoming the Burbs.
That areas growth rate is unbelievable in the last ten years.
 
Caustic Burno":263a4nq0 said:
greybeard":263a4nq0 said:
I just sold 17.4 acres, with a usable barn on it for $120K, highway frontage but in 100 yr flood plain. Had it not been in a flood plain, asking price would have been 1/3 more and I would have got it.

Yea but you are rapidly becoming the Burbs.
That areas growth rate is unbelievable in the last ten years.

Actually, I was wrong--if I was right outside the 100 yr flood plain, property is going for $11,000/acre--I got $6900/acre for my 17 ac. One place about 1 1/2 miles up the nearest county road from me--old log cabin, water well and about 12 acres of scrub hardwood and pine sapling sold for $11,000/ac last fall. Another place about 1/2 way between me and Chainsaw Driver--maybe 8 miles due west--nice hay field of about 30 acres and out of the 100 yr flood zone asking price is $11,500/ac. Might be a home on it as well--I don't remember.

I always believe in full disclosure and encourage anyone wanting to relocate to choose Texas based on the wonderful attributes both manmade and provided by nature. We have it all.
Hurricanes, tornadoes, fire ants, mosquitoes by the drove, very high humidity, 100+ deg temps, ice storms, floods, droughts, high crime, drugs, murders, crooked politicians, hailstorms, straightline winds, army worms,ravenous grasshoppers, hungry buzzards, feral hogs that can turn a pasture to tilled ground overnight, over indulgent permit offices, nazi run permit and development offices, county tax appraisal districts that make the East German Stasi look meek, cactus, Chinese tallow, multiflora rose, goatweed, sweetgum, ticks, fleas, red wasps, yellow jackets, hornets, chupacabra, coyotes, quicksand, soil of a consistency that makes concrete envious, pine pollen, salt cedar, encroaching metroplex, and illegal aliens.
C'mon down!!!
 
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greybeard":6v4v2kcj said:
Caustic Burno":6v4v2kcj said:
greybeard":6v4v2kcj said:
I just sold 17.4 acres, with a usable barn on it for $120K, highway frontage but in 100 yr flood plain. Had it not been in a flood plain, asking price would have been 1/3 more and I would have got it.

Yea but you are rapidly becoming the Burbs.
That areas growth rate is unbelievable in the last ten years.

Actually, I was wrong--if I was right outside the 100 yr flood plain, property is going for $11,000/acre--I got $6900/acre for my 17 ac. One place about 1 1/2 miles up the nearest county road from me--old log cabin, water well and about 12 acres of scrub hardwood and pine sapling sold for $11,000/ac last fall. Another place about 1/2 way between me and Chainsaw Driver--maybe 8 miles due west--nice hay field of about 30 acres and out of the 100 yr flood zone asking price is $11,500/ac. Might be a home on it as well--I don't remember.

I always believe in full disclosure and encourage anyone wanting to relocate to choose Texas based on the wonderful attributes both manmade and provided by nature. We have it all.
Hurricanes, tornadoes, fire ants, mosquitoes by the drove, very high humidity, 100+ deg temps, ice storms, floods, droughts, high crime, drugs, murders, crooked politicians, hailstorms, straightline winds, army worms,ravenous grasshoppers, hungry buzzards, feral hogs that can turn a pasture to tilled ground overnight, over indulgent permit offices, nazi run permit and development offices, county tax appraisal districts that make the East German Stasi look meek, cactus, Chinese tallow, multiflora rose, goatweed, sweetgum, ticks, fleas, red wasps, yellow jackets, hornets, chupacabra, coyotes, quicksand, soil of a consistency that makes concrete envious, pine pollen, salt cedar, encroaching metroplex, and illegal aliens.
C'mon down!!!

You forgot honey locust trees, bull nettle, and redbugs (chiggers). Other than that I'd say you pretty much nailed it.
 
greybeard":33vslrpt said:
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choose Texas based on the wonderful attributes both manmade and provided by nature. We have it all.Hurricanes, tornadoes, fire ants, mosquitoes by the drove, very high humidity, 100+ deg temps, ice storms, floods, droughts, high crime, drugs, murders, crooked politicians, hailstorms, straightline winds, army worms,ravenous grasshoppers, hungry buzzards, feral hogs that can turn a pasture to tilled ground overnight, over indulgent permit offices, nazi run permit and development offices, county tax appraisal districts that make the East German Stasi look meek, cactus, Chinese tallow, multiflora rose, goatweed, sweetgum, ticks, fleas, red wasps, yellow jackets, hornets, chupacabra, coyotes, quicksand, soil of a consistency that makes concrete envious, pine pollen, salt cedar, encroaching metroplex, and illegal aliens.
C'mon down!!!

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You sure do know how to sell a product! Wait a minute, I didn't see Africanized "killer" honeybees on that list, or scorpions and rattlesnakes. ;-)

I am, however, relieved to hear that y'all have such a diligent permitting dept. ;-)
 
I know an area where you don't have to worry much about the permit people. A lady friend of mine use to have a ranch in SE Oregon. The ranch was in Oregon but her 14 mile long driveway came to the road in Nevada. The permit people would have a tough time even finding you even if they wanted to. One of the down sides was for the kids to catch the school bus it was 14 miles out the driveway and then 6 miles back up to the state line where the school bus turned around. So it was 80 miles each day just to run the kids to the bus and then pick them up after school. Of course you get to go gather your cows old west style horseback. But be sure to bring a good set of binoculars because they pack them to be able to spot cows from miles away.
 
How about the area around Ft. Hood? Decent land not outrageously priced within a hour North, East and West, just not South as you get close to Austin.
 
Workinonit Farm":2l35nyta said:
greybeard":2l35nyta said:
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choose Texas based on the wonderful attributes both manmade and provided by nature. We have it all.Hurricanes, tornadoes, fire ants, mosquitoes by the drove, very high humidity, 100+ deg temps, ice storms, floods, droughts, high crime, drugs, murders, crooked politicians, hailstorms, straightline winds, army worms,ravenous grasshoppers, hungry buzzards, feral hogs that can turn a pasture to tilled ground overnight, over indulgent permit offices, nazi run permit and development offices, county tax appraisal districts that make the East German Stasi look meek, cactus, Chinese tallow, multiflora rose, goatweed, sweetgum, ticks, fleas, red wasps, yellow jackets, hornets, chupacabra, coyotes, quicksand, soil of a consistency that makes concrete envious, pine pollen, salt cedar, encroaching metroplex, and illegal aliens.
C'mon down!!!

:clap: :lol2:

You sure do know how to sell a product! Wait a minute, I didn't see Africanized "killer" honeybees on that list, or scorpions and rattlesnakes. ;-)

No sense continuing to prime the pump after the water is flowing--and I figured everyone deserves a few surprises to make their new home more interesting. No one wants to be bored with their new surroundings.
 
greybeard":34z6sl53 said:
Caustic Burno":34z6sl53 said:
greybeard":34z6sl53 said:
I just sold 17.4 acres, with a usable barn on it for $120K, highway frontage but in 100 yr flood plain. Had it not been in a flood plain, asking price would have been 1/3 more and I would have got it.

Yea but you are rapidly becoming the Burbs.
That areas growth rate is unbelievable in the last ten years.

Actually, I was wrong--if I was right outside the 100 yr flood plain, property is going for $11,000/acre--I got $6900/acre for my 17 ac. One place about 1 1/2 miles up the nearest county road from me--old log cabin, water well and about 12 acres of scrub hardwood and pine sapling sold for $11,000/ac last fall. Another place about 1/2 way between me and Chainsaw Driver--maybe 8 miles due west--nice hay field of about 30 acres and out of the 100 yr flood zone asking price is $11,500/ac. Might be a home on it as well--I don't remember.

I always believe in full disclosure and encourage anyone wanting to relocate to choose Texas based on the wonderful attributes both manmade and provided by nature. We have it all.
Hurricanes, tornadoes, fire ants, mosquitoes by the drove, very high humidity, 100+ deg temps, ice storms, floods, droughts, high crime, drugs, murders, crooked politicians, hailstorms, straightline winds, army worms,ravenous grasshoppers, hungry buzzards, feral hogs that can turn a pasture to tilled ground overnight, over indulgent permit offices, nazi run permit and development offices, county tax appraisal districts that make the East German Stasi look meek, cactus, Chinese tallow, multiflora rose, goatweed, sweetgum, ticks, fleas, red wasps, yellow jackets, hornets, chupacabra, coyotes, quicksand, soil of a consistency that makes concrete envious, pine pollen, salt cedar, encroaching metroplex, and illegal aliens.
C'mon down!!!


You reminded me of this song.. by Ray Wylie Hubbard

I got on my cowboy boots, jeans
And Hawaiian shirt, mirrored sunglasses
And a mobile phone
I guess I look like some Port Aransas
Dope dealer that's out on bail
Just trying to get home
Well I ain't in jail and I got me a guitar
Got a little band that's hotter than a rocket
Sometimes we're sloppy
We're always loud, tonight we're just ornery
And locked in the pocket

http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/hubb ... 21752.html
 
greybeard":31lih5mt said:
Workinonit Farm":31lih5mt said:
greybeard":31lih5mt said:
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choose Texas based on the wonderful attributes both manmade and provided by nature. We have it all.Hurricanes, tornadoes, fire ants, mosquitoes by the drove, very high humidity, 100+ deg temps, ice storms, floods, droughts, high crime, drugs, murders, crooked politicians, hailstorms, straightline winds, army worms,ravenous grasshoppers, hungry buzzards, feral hogs that can turn a pasture to tilled ground overnight, over indulgent permit offices, nazi run permit and development offices, county tax appraisal districts that make the East German Stasi look meek, cactus, Chinese tallow, multiflora rose, goatweed, sweetgum, ticks, fleas, red wasps, yellow jackets, hornets, chupacabra, coyotes, quicksand, soil of a consistency that makes concrete envious, pine pollen, salt cedar, encroaching metroplex, and illegal aliens.
C'mon down!!!

:clap: :lol2:

You sure do know how to sell a product! Wait a minute, I didn't see Africanized "killer" honeybees on that list, or scorpions and rattlesnakes. ;-)

No sense continuing to prime the pump after the water is flowing--and I figured everyone deserves a few surprises to make their new home more interesting. No one wants to be bored with their new surroundings.

Forgot gators and ghost lights as well.
 
I haven't run cows there but back a few generations, my family did a lot of farming in WV. Beautiful land they owned, hate that it got away. A big chunk of it's now Nature Conservancy land. When we went back to visit the old cemeteries last year and put up a new monument, I was surprised by the number of cattle in the area. Some beautiful Angus. Grant county and Hardy county I think is where we saw a bunch.
 
Wow. Y'all have given me a heck of a lot to think about. I really appreciate it. I am going to decide sometime in the next couple months. If I could find a ranch that already had a house on it I could do around 450k, but those seem few and far between in any of the places I've looked. Ha, maybe I'll win the lottery and not have to worry about the upfront price. A guy can wish. I will let y'all know what I decide. Appreciate the input
 
Hello,
I'm new as well. I was in the same field of work as you and just wondered why you didn't have Ft Gordon Ga on your list? There are a lot of nice ranches available in the surrounding area and the money can go a long way around here. I'm just now getting into the cattle side of things after retiring from the AF a few years back. We have three folks that are running cattle farms in the area and are really trying to support each other's growth...just wanted to give you an option if you haven't considered here.
 
That money, esp in USD would go a lot further up here. Neighbour place had 140? ac I think, a couple big barns, out buildings and shops, big house.. etc for around 400k I believe. Was a dairy up until a few yrs ago.
 
Dawg71":13zgbux4 said:
Hello,
I'm new as well. I was in the same field of work as you and just wondered why you didn't have Ft Gordon Ga on your list? There are a lot of nice ranches available in the surrounding area and the money can go a long way around here. I'm just now getting into the cattle side of things after retiring from the AF a few years back. We have three folks that are running cattle farms in the area and are really trying to support each other's growth...just wanted to give you an option if you haven't considered here.


The only reason I hadn't thought about there was because my wife can't transfer her job there. She works for Groendyke Trans and their main terminals are in TX, KS and CO and the economy around VA/WV with the commute I knew she could find something there. I've never been to GA so I didn't know they even had a good cattle industry down there. I'm still trying to figure out the best way to go. If I could win the lotto I would just get out now, buy a few thousand acres, and do what I love for the rest of my life. Frustrating as heck knowing exactly what you want to do and not being able to make it happen right now. I think the happiest times in my life revolved around branding season or jumping in the creek after a day of putting up hay (or swathing it in an open cab). Definitely leaves me a lot to think about. I need to get a really firm set plan for how I'm going to be able to start, and then a firm strategy for how to grow the operation to the point where I can replace my income and support my family. Back to the drawing board for now I guess.
 

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