Spraying a hayfield

[SmokinM]

Got a couple that the weeds are getting troublesome in. Mostly ragweed, redroot, buckhorn plantain and sandbriars. Cut and rolled it all about 2 weeks ago and getting some regrowth now on everything. Local co-op says 24d and dicamba which is what I figured. Real question is should I spray now or wait til next year or do I have to do both. In central VA so still a good 5-6 weeks til frost most likely and daytime temps still in 80s. Would like to use Grazon Plus but need to do some overseeding so that isn't an option right now. Thanks for any guidance you can give.

 

[sstterry]

I would wait until the spring. The plants need to be in an active growth stage for optimal effect.

By the way, ragweed is the worst here I have ever seen. I was out last weekend and the Polaris Ranger turned yellow with all the pollen on it.

 

[JMJ Farms]

Not familiar with al of your weeds. But check out the label on Metcel (metsulfuron). Same thing as Escort or Cimmaron. I use it a good bit and it only costs me about $3-4/acre and it is effective on a broad range of weeds. I spray it at first fertilizer application in the spring and again at 3rd or 4th application in the fall. Tank mixes with Nitrogen and insecticides I use for stem maggots and armyworms.

 

[WFfarm]

Can you use 2-4 D and Grazon on hay fields or pastures that have Alfalfa, clover, or birdsfoot? Or will they kill everything that's not a grass and you have to broadcast seed your legumes back in?

 

[Caustic Burno]

Got a couple that the weeds are getting troublesome in. Mostly ragweed, redroot, buckhorn plantain and sandbriars. Cut and rolled it all about 2 weeks ago and getting some regrowth now on everything. Local co-op says 24d and dicamba which is what I figured. Real question is should I spray now or wait til next year or do I have to do both. In central VA so still a good 5-6 weeks til frost most likely and daytime temps still in 80s. Would like to use Grazon Plus but need to do some overseeding so that isn't an option right now. Thanks for any guidance you can give.

Hayfield is like a woman needs lots of love and attention, or it will up and leave you.

 

[bird dog]

Local so-op is correct. Wait until spring. If your neighbors plant any row crops, spray before they plant. Its an excellent product but it will drift.

 

[kenny thomas]

I have many of the same weeds. I feel spraying after the first cutting would do better but I missed that because of all the rain. I say if nothing else try a few acres and see

 

[SmokinM]

Reading a little more last night I think it will have to be at least 2 applications. The buckhorn plantain is the primary offender in one and it is a cool season perennial so fall is the time to hit it particularly if I want to overseed as planned. Making hay is easy, making good hay is not! I make more on it than the cows in the end though.

 

[Rafter S]

If you can stand the expense I don't see a downside to doing it now and next spring.

 

[sstterry]

Can you use 2-4 D and Grazon on hay fields or pastures that have Alfalfa, clover, or birdsfoot? Or will they kill everything that's not a grass and you have to broadcast seed your legumes back in?

Grazon will kill clover. And keep it from coming up for at least a year after. 2-4 D will not.

 

[LocustDaleCattleCompany]

I went to get some GrazonNext HL the other day to spray some thistle and cockleburs and they were out. They told me to try Duracor for the above two species and that Duracor isn't as harsh on the clover so we will see.

 

[Texasmark]

Can you use 2-4 D and Grazon on hay fields or pastures that have Alfalfa, clover, or birdsfoot? Or will they kill everything that's not a grass and you have to broadcast seed your legumes back in?

Grazon will kill clover. And keep it from coming up for at least a year after. 2-4 D will not.

24d Amine at 2% per directions killed my white clover.

 

[sstterry]

Can you use 2-4 D and Grazon on hay fields or pastures that have Alfalfa, clover, or birdsfoot? Or will they kill everything that's not a grass and you have to broadcast seed your legumes back in?

Grazon will kill clover. And keep it from coming up for at least a year after. 2-4 D will not.

24d Amine at 2% per directions killed my white clover.

It was always my understanding that it might stunt it, but not kill it.

 

[sstterry]

Can you use 2-4 D and Grazon on hay fields or pastures that have Alfalfa, clover, or birdsfoot? Or will they kill everything that's not a grass and you have to broadcast seed your legumes back in?

Grazon will kill clover. And keep it from coming up for at least a year after. 2-4 D will not.

24d Amine at 2% per directions killed my white clover.

I have looked into this and it appears that if you spray 2-4D in the Spring it will not kill the clover, but if it is sprayed in the Summer it can. The reason is that clover is a hot weather plant and is not activly growing in the spring when a lot of other broadleaf weeds are growing.

Someone correct me on this if I am totally off base.

 

[kenny thomas]

Try spraying between Halloween and Thanksgiving if you get the weather. Clover is somewhat dormant and many of next year's weeds like buttercup, thistle and several others are already up but still very tender and easy to kill.

 

[JW IN VA]

Try spraying between Halloween and Thanksgiving if you get the weather. Clover is somewhat dormant and many of next year's weeds like buttercup, thistle and several others are already up but still very tender and easy to kill.

But Kenny, IT"S HUNTIN SEASON then

 

[kenny thomas]

Try spraying between Halloween and Thanksgiving if you get the weather. Clover is somewhat dormant and many of next year's weeds like buttercup, thistle and several others are already up but still very tender and easy to kill.

But Kenny, IT"S HUNTIN SEASON then

OMG don't you have a spotlight.

 

[JW IN VA]

Try spraying between Halloween and Thanksgiving if you get the weather. Clover is somewhat dormant and many of next year's weeds like buttercup, thistle and several others are already up but still very tender and easy to kill.

But Kenny, IT"S HUNTIN SEASON then

OMG don't you have a spotlight.

Hush. :hide: :lol2: :lol2:

 

[WinterSpringsFarm]

Spray it now to keep all that stuff from going to seed and giving you a seed bank for next year. Then spray it next spring when the new weeds are young and growing. It should have that field pretty clean at that point.