sooknortex":2bzljxi7 said:I guess connection might be too strong a word.
I am using 20J on some heifers this fall. (dang now Knersie is gonna get on me cause this bull might be too big)(and he may be right, we'll see)
what is too big anyways? Why are you using bulls like 20J, 46E and K10. Why are they so sought after today... cause they were too big? 46E was bigger than 20J is and the carpenter/williams cattle were "great cattle" but they came with big birth weights and "too much white". Does that mean the cattle were/are wrong. Trades and balances... I sincerely believe producers from everybreed are looking for bulls like the ones you have pictured because they have been chasing genetics that have no merits for too long and they want to get back to the basics... he has too big a birth weight, he is too big framed, he has too much white... I'd be willing to bet by the time those 20J heifer calves you get turn 10 years old you are going to be scratching your head asking yourself why didn't I breed more to that bull - not, was that bull too big.
I actually have no connection to 46E. Just a great bull. I tried to chase down semen to no avail. Anybody here know of any?
there is still some 46E semen floating around - you just need to look harder. Heck, everyone says there is no K10 semen left
The third bull is FRC Sir 1 the sire of King Ten.
I am also using as son of King Ten on some heifers this fall.
So my connection is seeing if these genetics will work in my operation.
Don't take this wrong, but are you using these sires on polled or horned females?
CPL":3gn226hm said:sooknortex, what King Ten son are you using? and does anyone know if semen is available from the king ten son Mill Creek Ranch sold a few yrs ago?
I would also like to know which son you are using. I know 595 was collected but I have a hard time getting them to return my phone calls. I did get them to once and I guess it is my fault that I didn't get semen bought.
The bulls are nice. I'd be interested in what traits you are trying to achieve from them that you couldn't be found in modern bulls similar to their phenotype.
you'r right... but he#$, their all none too shabby.Hereford76":364njwvg said:arkie 74":364njwvg said:MEAT WAGONS!!!!!!! Good looking bulls
Here was the definition of a meat wagon in my opinion and that fella soapweed from ranchers.net could have had thanksgiving dinner with his family on his back.